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02/21/2006 08:20:24 PM · #1 |
I have just posted this open letter to the SC. Thanks to all of you that deserves it. No more update buttons for me for sure.
"Dear SC,
I hereby formally request an absolute cancelling of my account with DPC. I understand my pics used in challenges would stay and that is great, no problem. However, without even considering a refund or anything, I truelly wish for my membership to cease with immidiate effect.
Unfortunately I have lost my want to be in this community or even to be associated with it. I do not have to be even tempted to be part of a primative tribe of self consuming individuals as we have witnessed over the past few months. The change in character does not work for me. As I have said before, each to his own.
Your handling of a serious case of taking my work for derivitive purposes, not parody, and the general trend and mood at DPC makes me feel not only unwelcome but to say the least, dirty. The fact that SC, in our communications afterwards, admitted that no matter whether the so called parody/abusing of other people's work is legal or not, is not a concern because DPC can not be held accountable, only the individual, was a bigger problem than anticipated. My interpretation is that the mob can do what they want, be it wrong or right or at least risky, as long as 'I', DPC is okay.
DPC was great for me, I learned everything I know from them, making my loss even greater. But so be it. Thanks to the few remaining greats on DPC... Graphicfunk, goodman, messerscmidt, willie.. and such a few others.
Please respect my opinion and request and terminate every record, accept my history of challenges, with immidiate effect.
Dr PJ Venter." |
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02/21/2006 08:26:56 PM · #2 |
Why do people always make these things public? Just submit what you gotta submit then move on.
Anyway, didn't really know you much, but take it easy.
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02/21/2006 08:28:08 PM · #3 |
| You'll be missed Peter. But I respect your wishes and bid you luck in your future ventures. |
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02/21/2006 08:28:42 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Why do people always make these things public? Just submit what you gotta submit then move on.
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Ditto
Anyway she didn't steal your photo is is perfectly legal to use someone else's photo s a parody when you change it but you must make it known. Maybe it was forgotten. I think everyone needs to relax and enjoy the community.
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02/21/2006 08:34:26 PM · #5 |
edited
Message edited by author 2006-02-21 21:10:51. |
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02/21/2006 08:35:39 PM · #6 |
Shame really, I enjoyed his work. We're the one's that lose out here, by beign deprived of his interpretations and insight.
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02/21/2006 08:36:01 PM · #7 |
There is no drama factor if you just deal with the person directly. No one will say "oh, poor you" or "I agree with you fully." This whole thing was started before in a fourm post when a PM would have probably worked just as well.
edit: Quoted the wrong reply.
Message edited by author 2006-02-21 20:36:28. |
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02/21/2006 08:36:55 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by CzechMan:
I guess he pissed off the wrong people...his account is already closed. Wow, now there is some swift justice. |
He pissed no one off. He asked that his account be closed. |
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02/21/2006 08:37:00 PM · #9 |
FWIW, he didn't piss off anyone. He formally requested cancellation of his account, and his request was honored. We regret he feels that way, but nothing more we can do.
Edit: Too slow!
Message edited by author 2006-02-21 20:37:21.
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02/21/2006 08:37:29 PM · #10 |
I guess if you feel the need to leave for what ever reason so be it. But to make a dramatic exit with a 'hey I'm leaving this place and it pretty much sucks now attitude' makes me wonder what the agenda of posting it? For the record I really liked your images, but a graceful bow out without the drama post would have been more tasteful.
Edit: Same here Kirbic!
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02/21/2006 08:37:54 PM · #11 |
Everyone seems so quick to dismiss his unhappiness, but I have noticed a number of top photographers who have closed their accounts here recently. I find that a bit disturbing.
Edit: Quite a few posts were added while I was typing this - I'm glad to see not everyone feels that way.
Message edited by author 2006-02-21 20:40:21.
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02/21/2006 08:38:24 PM · #12 |
Shame.
I know the problem goes deeper, and I do understand.
At least I can wish you a Happy Birthday anyway!
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02/21/2006 08:38:54 PM · #13 |
| So what was the "parody cum plagiarism" accusation all about? |
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02/21/2006 08:39:10 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
Everyone seems so quick to dismiss his unhappiness, but I have noticed a number of top photographers who have closed their accounts here recently. I find that a bit disturbing. |
Ahhh just people taking this stuff too seriously. We all just need to have a group hug.
Message edited by author 2006-02-21 20:39:41.
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02/21/2006 08:46:34 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by rex:
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
Everyone seems so quick to dismiss his unhappiness, but I have noticed a number of top photographers who have closed their accounts here recently. I find that a bit disturbing. |
Ahhh just people taking this stuff too seriously. We all just need to have a group hug. |
I'm with rex.
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02/21/2006 08:53:16 PM · #16 |
Feeling misrepresented, I just wanted to make a statement to the tune that DPChallenge takes very seriously image-related issues of any kind and we do our best to address them quickly and to everyone's satisfaction. In this instance, a member of the Site Council PM'ed the person who used the image for parody and asked them to remove it. The user did so immediately, either upon receiving the PM or discovering that the photographer did not agree with her use.
It is very unfortunate that the issue dissolved into what it did as DocPJ's work was well-appreciated here.
Originally posted by CzechMan:
I guess he pissed off the wrong people...his account is already closed. Wow, now there is some swift justice. |
His account was closed as he requested it in a ticket (as karmat & kirbic mentioned). I'm just trying to stay on top of things around here! |
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02/21/2006 08:57:29 PM · #17 |
| I can not speak to the core of the discontent. All I can say is that Petur will be greatly missed. |
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02/21/2006 09:01:13 PM · #18 |
Is this still stemming back to when I used someone's picture?
Or is this a new case? Cuz I thought that was over with.
:( |
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02/21/2006 09:05:08 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by nsoroma79:
Is this still stemming back to when I used someone's picture?
Or is this a new case? Cuz I thought that was over with.
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It is stemmng back to that, quite unfortunately. Don't feel bad; he blew this WAY out of proportion, and you handled his less-than tactful approach admirably well, with tact and aplomb.
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02/21/2006 09:06:07 PM · #20 |
| I hate it when I miss things.... |
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02/21/2006 09:06:44 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by nsoroma79:
Is this still stemming back to when I used someone's picture?
Or is this a new case? Cuz I thought that was over with.
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You handled it great.......don't sweat it.
Message edited by author 2006-02-21 21:08:39.
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02/21/2006 09:06:56 PM · #22 |
| I hope I didn't give anyone the wrong impression with my comments. I was just surprised at how quick his account was closed. I will choose my words more carefully next time. Many apologies! |
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02/21/2006 09:23:28 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
Everyone seems so quick to dismiss his unhappiness, but I have noticed a number of top photographers who have closed their accounts here recently. I find that a bit disturbing. |
I agree that it is disturbing. I can't count how many photogs that I really admired when I started here who have left. It's sad when you go to check out the profiles of your favorites to find they no longer exist. His work will be missed. I'm unaware of the situation but it must have really upset him to the point that he felt he had to leave.
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02/21/2006 09:23:56 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
Everyone seems so quick to dismiss his unhappiness, but I have noticed a number of top photographers who have closed their accounts here recently. I find that a bit disturbing.
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That's what happens, it's natural, it's evolution. You start here, you know nothing, then some just move on...it's no big deal.
Obviously you aren't going to keep everyone happy -- people find other places, more challenging places, places where their works are more appreciated, or they can further develop their 'thing' (whatever that may be -- another forum, a local, in-person photography group or whatever), and they go there...it's just how it is.
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02/21/2006 09:24:14 PM · #25 |
You'll be missed! I kind of know where you'r comming from, but i also agree with almost everything posted so far. I am here for the photography, and hopefully to meet a couple people along the way. As your skill increases, i assume your intentions and uses of the site change, but still, the core of the site is photography, getting comments and learning from them. I'm really sorry you've lost thrill of what DPC is really supposed to be!
Hope ya don't go join a Home improvement site or something, lol
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