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02/17/2006 03:38:39 PM · #1 |
In the Broken II challenge my picture received no comments and I asked in a forum if someone could comment to give me an idea of why it didn't do so well. I thank everyone that commented. I took the advice and went and re-shot the photograph. My question, is it an improvement?
 
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02/17/2006 03:47:15 PM · #2 |
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02/17/2006 03:47:47 PM · #3 |
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02/17/2006 03:51:30 PM · #4 |
You know what this needs - a deflated football, just off the path in the foreground. Now that would give it some added zest.
It just needs that something extra to take it to the next level.
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02/17/2006 03:52:35 PM · #5 |
IMO not an improvement. I didn't vote on that one. I agree that the dude in current positioning doesn't add, but in the second image you can't tell that that one concrete block is jutting out.
Did you try it with dude sitting or standing on the outcrop? |
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02/17/2006 03:53:46 PM · #6 |
Thanks for the comments. I am going to take this shot until I get it right. I think this is a good way to improve based on user comments.
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02/17/2006 04:03:34 PM · #7 |
Added to my comment ;-)
sorry ideas just keep popping into my brain.
Try a red soccerball - deflated and slightly muddy
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02/17/2006 04:11:02 PM · #8 |
This is the exact stairs you are looking at in my picture but taken in 1954.
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02/17/2006 05:25:27 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by southern_exposure:
My question, is it an improvement?
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In my view this is an improvement from the submitted version in several areas:
1-Lighting - The lighting is more even. The submitted one has a very distracting white patch in it.
2-Content - The submitted version has too many distended elements... the broken wall, green tree and kid listening to music. They are loosely connected at best. Everything in the new version seems like it "belongs".
3-Technical quality - The old version has poor sharpness and color and has ugly haloing around the main subject. The post processing on the new one is much improved. You also used post processing to added mood to the image.
There are some technical issues to think about with the new image...
I don't know if the camera is actually level or not, but the lines of the bricks across the image are not. Because they occupy so much space in the image they probably should be made level in the composition.
Generally speaking shallow DOF in the foreground should be used sparingly. Unlike soft focused backgrounds, shallow DOF in the foreground is a lot trickier and can act as a viewer distraction unless they see it as having a specific purpose in the image. I don't see one in this one myself, but perhaps others do.
Lastly, most pictures need an obvious focal point. Before you snap the shutter you always want to ask yourself this question, "What is in this picture that I want viewers to pay attention to?" When you make that decision then apply some basic photographic mechanism to highlight it. It can be perspective, or leading lines, or DOF, or the rule of thirds or anything else that will draw attention to it in the frame. I cannot tell what you are trying to draw attention to in the new image and others might not either.
Message edited by author 2006-02-17 17:26:20.
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02/17/2006 05:49:56 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
In my view this ..... I cannot tell what you are trying to draw attention to in the new image and others might not either. |
Thanks for the VERY in dept critique and explanations. I have printed out what you wrote to use as a guide for other pictures. GREAT POV from a viewer or voter to help the photographer. Now thats what I call helping others with a comment.
I also want to thank everyone for commenting.
Message edited by author 2006-02-17 17:52:58.
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