Vignetting - DPChallenge Forums

02/17/2006 02:31:57 AM · #1

I know that there has been some discussion and DQs regarding vignetting but I can't remember what was decided and besides the rules seem to migrate a little.

My question: is vignetting allowed using a raw file in photoshopCS ?

Thanks in advance.

02/17/2006 02:34:46 AM · #2

CS doesnt allow for vignetting. Only CS2. And it's not allowed ;)

02/17/2006 02:43:35 AM · #3

Originally posted by Rikki:

CS doesnt allow for vignetting. Only CS2. And it's not allowed ;)

Thanks Rikki

I don't understand is Version 8, CS2
This is my system info,

Adobe Photoshop Version: 8.0 (8.0x118)
Operating System: Windows XP
Version: 5.1 Service Pack 2

stare_at_the_sun

Canon EOS-10D

02/17/2006 02:46:09 AM · #4

Originally posted by Rikki:

CS doesnt allow for vignetting. Only CS2. And it's not allowed ;)

I thought it only wasn't allowed in basic editing? Can't it still be used in advanced?

Or am I just way out of the loop?

:P

02/17/2006 02:49:05 AM · #5

Vignetting is allowed in Advanced Editing. Like any other tool, if used to excess it may run afoul of the rules. I use a faint vignette for corner darkening all the ime.

R.

ignite

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

02/17/2006 02:50:53 AM · #6

Why not just do it while taking the photo? Use a roll of black paper around the lens ;-)

02/17/2006 02:52:15 AM · #7

Originally posted by keegbow:

Originally posted by Rikki:
CS doesnt allow for vignetting. Only CS2. And it's not allowed ;)

Thanks Rikki

I don't understand is Version 8, CS2
This is my system info,

Adobe Photoshop Version: 8.0 (8.0x118)
Operating System: Windows XP
Version: 5.1 Service Pack 2

Version 8.0x118 is Photoshop CS. By the way, don't forget to turn on your history log so when asked for validation, all you have to do is copy and paste and send the document to SC.

Cheers :)

02/17/2006 02:52:34 AM · #8

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Vignetting is allowed in Advanced Editing. Like any other tool, if used to excess it may run afoul of the rules. I use a faint vignette for corner darkening all the ime.

R.

Why do you think it is illegal in basic doesn't make sense to me it's applied to the whole image, can you point me to a thread, was it that recent ribbon winner?.

02/17/2006 02:54:47 AM · #9

Originally posted by Rikki:

Originally posted by keegbow:

Originally posted by Rikki:
CS doesnt allow for vignetting. Only CS2. And it's not allowed ;)

Thanks Rikki

I don't understand is Version 8, CS2
This is my system info,

Adobe Photoshop Version: 8.0 (8.0x118)
Operating System: Windows XP
Version: 5.1 Service Pack 2

Version 8.0x118 is Photoshop CS. By the way, don't forget to turn on your history log so when asked for validation, all you have to do is copy and paste and send the document to SC.

Cheers :)

I thought I was using Photoshop CS ( not going mad ) and I certainly have vignetting available in raw adjustments.

02/17/2006 02:55:15 AM · #10

It's nOT applied to the whole image, it's applied progressively from transparent in the center to noticeable at the edges. It's the exact effect you'd get if you carefully and progressively used the burn tool in a circular pattern out from the center. It qualifies as "spot editing".

R.

02/17/2006 02:57:49 AM · #11

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

The burn tool qualifies as "spot editing" or the vignetting ?

02/17/2006 02:58:39 AM · #12

Originally posted by keegbow:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:
It's nOT applied to the whole image, it's applied progressively from transparent in the center to noticeable at the edges. It's the exact effect you'd get if you carefully and progressively used the burn tool in a circular pattern out from the center. It qualifies as "spot editing".

R.

The burn tool qualifies as "spot editing" or the vignetting ?

Both

R.

02/17/2006 02:59:01 AM · #13

Originally posted by keegbow:

Indeed in "basic" editing ;)

02/17/2006 03:00:16 AM · #14

Originally posted by Rikki:

Originally posted by keegbow:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:
It's nOT applied to the whole image, it's applied progressively from transparent in the center to noticeable at the edges. It's the exact effect you'd get if you carefully and progressively used the burn tool in a circular pattern out from the center. It qualifies as "spot editing".

R.

The burn tool qualifies as "spot editing" or the vignetting ?

Indeed in "basic" editing ;)

It's spot editing either way, it's just not legal in basic.

R.

02/17/2006 03:03:43 AM · #15

Here is where it all started. Larus' 4th place image that got DQed.

02/17/2006 03:10:50 AM · #16

Originally posted by Rikki:

Here is where it all started. Larus' 4th place image that got DQed.

OK that was a bit harsh in my book but I can live with it.

Now next question what about adjustment layer- posterize?

and Rikki vignetting is available in PhotoshopCS.

02/17/2006 03:11:55 AM · #17

hmmm i wasn'tr aware of that... care to lead the way? how do i do it?

02/17/2006 03:14:50 AM · #18

Posterize poses a bit of a dilemna as it could be construed as using filters to change major elements in the image. Plus the fact that overusing a filter isn't really well received by the voters.

Take this image for instance:

had this been entered in a challenge for portraits, I would have surely would have been beaten to a pulp by the votes ;)

02/17/2006 03:17:10 AM · #19

Originally posted by keegbow:

Now next question what about adjustment layer- posterize?

and Rikki vignetting is available in PhotoshopCS.

Anyhting you do with an adjustment layer in Photoshop is legal in basic if you keep the mode at "normal".

The problem with Larus' DQ was that he accompished an effect that is clearly illegal in basic by doing it in the RAW converter. Up until now anyhting done in RAW has been considered as done in-camera, but the RAW converters are now becoming editors in their own right. The vignette function in his RAW converter is designed to compensate for light fall-off with some lenses, to even the image out, and he used it as a tool to darken the vorners/edges of his image. If he'd done this in PS with a vignette plug-in, or simply by using the burn tool, it would not have been legal. The argument was that since it was done in the RAW converter it was exempt from the rules. SC decided otherwise, and a revision is on the way.

Robt.

02/17/2006 03:21:12 AM · #20

Originally posted by Rikki:

Posterize poses a bit of a dilemna as it could be construed as using filters to change major elements in the image. Plus the fact that overusing a filter isn't really well received by the voters.

This image was entered in "70's" challenge. Posterization to the max. It was all done with levels and curves, strictly kosher. It was validated by SC. The voters didn't like it.

02/17/2006 03:23:27 AM · #21

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Rikki:
Posterize poses a bit of a dilemna as it could be construed as using filters to change major elements in the image. Plus the fact that overusing a filter isn't really well received by the voters.

This image was entered in "70's" challenge. Posterization to the max. It was all done with levels and curves, strictly kosher. It was validated by SC. The voters didn't like it.

R.

You gotta get off that "acid" trip Robert :P

02/17/2006 03:24:15 AM · #22

Originally posted by Rikki:

hmmm i wasn'tr aware of that... care to lead the way? how do i do it?

I upload my files in a common or master directory not by any program and then simply open image via file browser in Photoshop CS and it defaults to the raw preview where you find the adjust,detail,lens and calibrate tabs. Under the lens tab you will find your vignetting adjustment options.

02/17/2006 03:30:30 AM · #23

doesnt seem to work for me ;(

02/17/2006 03:37:27 AM · #24

Originally posted by Rikki:

doesnt seem to work for me ;(

How do did you open the raw image ?