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02/15/2006 12:02:02 PM · #1
I'm shopping for a circular polarizing filter that I can use with my Nikon 8800. Nikon has one that fits the Nilon 53.5 threads but I'm thinking of using a step up ring to 58mm so I can get a filter that will work when I upgrade to a SLR. Any suggestions on what to look for in a good filter and if my approach makes sense?
02/15/2006 12:14:09 PM · #2
Yeah that makes sense, as long as you're sure that the lens you're planning on buying has a 58mm thread. I have a Hoya HMC circular polarizer that I use on my 17-40 and it's much better than the Tiffen ones I've had in the past - and it should be, given that it was about $150 CDN.

Get a good one, it's one of the only filters for digital whose effect you can't replicate in PhotoShop.
02/15/2006 12:19:05 PM · #3
If you are thinking about an upgrade path, you might consider a conkin p-series mount and a circular polarizer to fit that - then you can just buy adapter rings for any lens size you end up with. I've been quite happy with mine for years.
02/15/2006 12:28:24 PM · #4
Originally posted by Pooba:

I'm shopping for a circular polarizing filter that I can use with my Nikon 8800. Nikon has one that fits the Nilon 53.5 threads but I'm thinking of using a step up ring to 58mm so I can get a filter that will work when I upgrade to a SLR. Any suggestions on what to look for in a good filter and if my approach makes sense?


Makes sense to me. Then when the DSLR comes along you may need a different step ring to use the 58mm polarizer. For example, the kit lens with mine is 55mm - new Sigma zoom is 58mm. But step rings are inexpensive...

One thing I didn't consider was not being able to use a lens hood with a circular polarizer (can't reach in to turn it for adjustments).
02/15/2006 12:31:27 PM · #5
Originally posted by joebok:

If you are thinking about an upgrade path, you might consider a conkin p-series mount and a circular polarizer to fit that - then you can just buy adapter rings for any lens size you end up with. I've been quite happy with mine for years.

I use Cokin A series filters once in a while. One advantage to a circular polarizer that threads on to your lens is you can easily put a lens cap on and put the camera back in your bag. With the Cokin setup not so easy to do. Another consideration is getting a polarizer with front threads so you can stack (or add a Cokin adapter ring), etc...
02/15/2006 12:51:23 PM · #6
Originally posted by glad2badad:


I use Cokin A series filters once in a while. One advantage to a circular polarizer that threads on to your lens is you can easily put a lens cap on and put the camera back in your bag. With the Cokin setup not so easy to do. Another consideration is getting a polarizer with front threads so you can stack (or add a Cokin adapter ring), etc...


I'm not familiar with the A series, but I have lens caps for all my lenses that fit on the p-series cokin ring - so taking on and off and in the bag is super easy - I leave the ring on all the time. The only time that is a pain is when I really need to use a "real" lens hood.
02/15/2006 01:11:24 PM · #7
Don't spend a ton of money. The middle of the pack filters work fine for 90% of us out there. I have a 77mm Hoya filter for $45 which works just fine. I'm assuming 58mm would be even less.
02/15/2006 01:13:49 PM · #8
Originally posted by joebok:

Originally posted by glad2badad:


I use Cokin A series filters once in a while. One advantage to a circular polarizer that threads on to your lens is you can easily put a lens cap on and put the camera back in your bag. With the Cokin setup not so easy to do. Another consideration is getting a polarizer with front threads so you can stack (or add a Cokin adapter ring), etc...


I'm not familiar with the A series, but I have lens caps for all my lenses that fit on the p-series cokin ring - so taking on and off and in the bag is super easy - I leave the ring on all the time. The only time that is a pain is when I really need to use a "real" lens hood.

Yep - Have that (cap that fits over adapter) too with the A series. Doesn't snap in tight like a regular lens cap tho...good for walking around. Plus, with the Cokin vs screw-in filter type, you have to take the filters out of the holder and put them away, then take off the filter holder and put that away. Just more involved than using a screw-in polarizer. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy the Cokin system... just for this one application (polarizer only) I would go the other way.
02/15/2006 01:14:56 PM · #9
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Don't spend a ton of money. The middle of the pack filters work fine for 90% of us out there. I have a 77mm Hoya filter for $45 which works just fine. I'm assuming 58mm would be even less.

I thought you were a fan of the Super HMC series? ;^)
02/15/2006 01:15:35 PM · #10
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Don't spend a ton of money. The middle of the pack filters work fine for 90% of us out there. I have a 77mm Hoya filter for $45 which works just fine. I'm assuming 58mm would be even less.


Actually, I think that a middle of the pack filter will work for everybody now. The last 10% just died of heart attacks at the thought of putting a $45 piece of plastic in front of a $2000 lens...
02/15/2006 01:19:30 PM · #11
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Don't spend a ton of money. The middle of the pack filters work fine for 90% of us out there. I have a 77mm Hoya filter for $45 which works just fine. I'm assuming 58mm would be even less.

I thought you were a fan of the Super HMC series? ;^)


I am, but I think it was only $45. :)
02/15/2006 01:25:41 PM · #12
Originally posted by glad2badad:

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Yep - Have that (cap that fits over adapter) too with the A series. Doesn't snap in tight like a regular lens cap tho...good for walking around. Plus, with the Cokin vs screw-in filter type, you have to take the filters out of the holder and put them away, then take off the filter holder and put that away. Just more involved than using a screw-in polarizer. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy the Cokin system... just for this one application (polarizer only) I would go the other way.


I guess I'm just lazy - I have 2 holders, one empty and the other one has my polarizer in it all the time.

But I agree, if all you need is a polarizer then cokin isn't the most economical or efficient way to go - unless you are a gear hound that likes to experiment.
02/15/2006 03:32:05 PM · #13
Thanks for all the feed back. I have looked at the Hoya's. One has a multi coating on one not. About $30 difference in price. Is the multi coating worth the extra?
02/15/2006 03:35:28 PM · #14
Originally posted by Pooba:

Thanks for all the feed back. I have looked at the Hoya's. One has a multi coating on one not. About $30 difference in price. Is the multi coating worth the extra?


Yes. The uncoated one is not worth buying.

R.
02/15/2006 03:40:04 PM · #15
Originally posted by Pooba:

Thanks for all the feed back. I have looked at the Hoya's. One has a multi coating on one not. About $30 difference in price. Is the multi coating worth the extra?

I took the middle road and bought the HMC Circular ($65 for 55mm). It's not something you're going to purchase very often. Might as well get a decent one. ;^)
02/16/2006 05:54:40 AM · #16
I've been a happy user of Cokin P-sized filters for several years now - that way, I only need one circular polariser and I can share it (and the other filters I use) between all my lenses, with filter sizes ranging from 55mm to 77mm!

The Cokin A-sized filters are the same quality at a lower price, but they only fit on lens diameters up to 62mm (and with an increased risk of vignetting at wide angles). If you are likely to get a lens that is larger or reasonably wide angle, then P series is a better proposition.

If you don't want to go with Cokin, then I'd go for the Hoya SMC. B&W have a good reputation too, but I don't have any personal experience with them.

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