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02/02/2006 07:38:00 PM · #1
Went out today and staked duck for about 3 hours, so this is my frist photo on my new 70-200 f4 L what do you all think.


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02/02/2006 07:42:10 PM · #2
Looks good. I have the same lens although I haven't had a chance to use it in a while.
02/02/2006 07:57:36 PM · #3
Nice pic. I am beginning to dislike (taking) duck pics as their heads are so darned dark. No details visible.
02/02/2006 07:58:38 PM · #4
Very versatile lens, and sharp at any focal length:

02/02/2006 08:03:02 PM · #5
I had to dodge the head a little bit but I didn't want to go nuts and make it look bad but I did find the head a little dark myself.
02/02/2006 08:04:08 PM · #6
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Nice pic. I am beginning to dislike (taking) duck pics as their heads are so darned dark. No details visible.


You might try exp. comp of +1 or so to get more light. Helps when I shoot dark birds.

02/02/2006 08:07:31 PM · #7
Originally posted by jbsmithana:

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Nice pic. I am beginning to dislike (taking) duck pics as their heads are so darned dark. No details visible.


You might try exp. comp of +1 or so to get more light. Helps when I shoot dark birds.



Personaly I just underexpose so that the water looks great and then work from there, I don't mind doing a little dodging, But that just me to.
02/02/2006 08:35:30 PM · #8
Originally posted by radionin:

Personaly I just underexpose so that the water looks great and then work from there, I don't mind doing a little dodging, But that just me to.


Well, I guess I should have qualified my statement. When I have a bright background (sky or highly reflective water) and a dark subject I use exp. comp of +1 or so. When I shoot a white bird against a dark background I do the opposite. The idea, for me anyway, is to get the histogram to the right without blowing the highlights. That way I have more to work with when processing with less noise.

All this is not to say that I do not dodge a bit when needed. Whatever works.
02/02/2006 08:49:58 PM · #9
I think we have a little different shooting styles I personal perfer to ride my backs and in general underexpose a little, by no means do I find my personal perfrence works on every single shoot, are you speaking about using in camera EV shift, I'm not 100% fimilair with it because I just kinda stayed away from it, is it just tricking your light meter or is it using some digital gain to give you the extra stop? And if its doing the digital gain side of things I shoot raw and do that all the time once I start Post
02/02/2006 09:23:37 PM · #10
I'm pretty sure they were talking about the exposure compensation function, which just adjusts the shutter speed (and/or aperture, depending on the mode you're in) slightly from what the light meter returns.

On my camera it's the same button you use to adjust the aperture in Tv or M modes.
02/02/2006 10:58:43 PM · #11
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Nice pic. I am beginning to dislike (taking) duck pics as their heads are so darned dark. No details visible.

You just gotta catch `em when the sun hits their face.

02/03/2006 12:26:23 AM · #12
Originally posted by MadMan2k:

I'm pretty sure they were talking about the exposure compensation function, which just adjusts the shutter speed (and/or aperture, depending on the mode you're in) slightly from what the light meter returns.


Yup, that is correct. As I normally shoot in Apperature Priority then it adjusts the shutter up or down so you get a slight under or overexposure as per the light meter. The issue is that with dramatic differences in background to subject the built in light meter can be fooled. Exposure compensation can adjust for that.

Now none of this is to say that my style is better. By all means each of us has to get used to our cameras and the software we use and do what fits our needs. For me it is always easier to slightly darken a RAW image without ill effects than it is to lighten it. Less noise.

Oh, one other note, I probably overstated the amount of compensation I use. It runs from + or - .3 on up depending on the stop difference I guess exists between the subject and the background. And of course you still need to assure you do not blow any highlights you want in your shot.

edit: And Coolhar - your are so correct. Get lucky and get the light right and no need for compensation!


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