XP Corp Hack removal - DPChallenge Forums

01/28/2006 01:04:42 PM · #1

before anyone yells at me and calls me evil for using pirated software I want to let you know I am coming clean and removing all my pirated software and im going legit on everything. so no flamming me or suggesting I go to MAC or linux, its NOT an option.

I have the FCKGW corp hack of XP Pro on my desk top. I want to go to a legal version of XP home edition, which I now have since my laptop got pissed on 1 too many times by one of my wifes cats. We just bought a new laptop this morning to replace the dead laptop, so I have all the software from the old laptop that I can legally use on my desk top.

I have read that I can not just change the product code to the legal version I have.

to avoid having to reinstall everything can I just create a new boot partition and install the legal verson of XP on the new partition and have my PC boot to that?

Or will it still see the hacked version and not allow me to get updates.

James

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01/28/2006 01:09:40 PM · #2

You do not have a legal version for your desktop unless you uninstall it on your laptop. One copy one computer....

Prof_Fate

01/28/2006 01:32:28 PM · #3

TooCool is correct. ON e copy per computer. So to go be legit, buy another copy for your desktop. Being legal can be expensive, huh?

Technically, I think yo ucan install XP 10 times (as in activate it) then the copy is dead forever. So beware of doint that - I have upgraded my PC recently and had to reactivate XP (again) cause 'too many things have changed from the original configuration" = so I have activated XP 3 or 4 times on ONE computer in 3 years....

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01/28/2006 01:37:53 PM · #4

It sounds to me like he's taking his legal copy from the dead laptop and putting it on his desktop. If the laptop is dead, that likely means he won't be using that copy anymore. I'm guessing the new laptop came with its own software. So he's good, he just wants to know how to install it the best way.

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01/28/2006 01:41:47 PM · #5

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

TooCool is correct. ON e copy per computer. So to go be legit, buy another copy for your desktop. Being legal can be expensive, huh?

I believe he's saying that he has extra copies now, from the *dead* laptop, so they wouldn't be used anywhere else.

Now, if you're in the US at least, and you read the licensing agreement and probably whatever you agreed to if you purchased the laptop online, you'll see that you aren't allowed to move the XP license off of the laptop to another computer (I'm assuming you received an OEM version of the software with your laptop).

On the other hand, MicroSoft used to (read the EULA to ensure that they still do) allow you to install a single copy of a store purchased retail version of their operating systems on both a desktop and a laptop with the same owner.

In short, read the EULA and whatever you agreed to when purchasing the machine with the original software. Depending on where you live the EULA may be valid, invalid, or questionable but whatever you agreed to at the time of the transaction is pretty solid.

edit:
The Online version of the EULA indicates that they removed the two-computer provision for XP Home.
MicroSoft's piracy site also indicates that you can't transfer OEM software (despite what other people are saying), and the question is directly addressed in a FAQ on the UK site (see: " May I transfer software from one PC to another?", no US version?).

Message edited by author 2006-01-28 14:23:40.

01/28/2006 01:42:35 PM · #6

MK is smarter than both of us! :-P

Back everything up so you can go back to what you have now first. Try doing a fresh install over top of the old hacked install...

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01/28/2006 01:45:02 PM · #7

yes I am going to use the legal copy from a DEAD, again read DEAD, NOT working, its in the garbage can laptop.

since the machine is dead with the exception of the hard drive which I need to get all my wifes files copied over to the new laptop.

I want to use the XP home edition that came with the now dead laptop on my desk top. Its legal to do since the original laptop is not working and wont be used. so the OS will just get moved to a different PC, but as I understand its a tricky process and I dont want to lose my programs on my desk top as it will take me a week or 2 to get every thing re-installed.

James

Geocide

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

01/28/2006 01:52:31 PM · #8

It funny how everyone gets all moral whenever a software question comes up. And the original question never gets answered.

Anyway, yes you can have several functioning partitions using regular Dos mode, Boot magic or Partition Magic.

o2bskating

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

01/28/2006 02:02:13 PM · #9

you can install xp as many times as you want, the cd key is locked out of microsoft's authentication system after 10 installs for security reasons, also if you change a major component of your system ie. motherboard, processor, xp will not install without a new key, all you have to do is call microsoft they will give you a new key and it will work again. OEM products are sold to the computer manufacturers at a discounted rate, they are also (sometimes) encoded so that they are processor specific (OS checks SN on chip before installing)Dell is notorious for this on the older laptops. Microsoft will not support authentication on any other pc. they will tell you to send the laptop back and have it fixed but won't let you transfer the OS. unfortunatley it is in the T&A of the purchase agreement.

i have fought with them on this several times..if you had xp pro they wouldn't give you any crap.

also i would just spend the money and get xp pro it is 10 times more stable i don't care what MS says about no difference between the two, they are full of it. i beta tested both of them xp home has issues! and still does.

sorry to bust your bubble but i figured i'd save you the aggervation i have gone through, been building these things for 12 years now and i have yet to get them to budge on anything.

ggbudge

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

01/28/2006 02:07:59 PM · #10

James, Here's what you're looking for. It's from Microsoft's Knowledgebase.

George

ClubJuggle

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01/28/2006 02:08:54 PM · #11

Originally posted by Geocide:

It funny how everyone gets all moral whenever a software question comes up. And the original question never gets answered.

In his orginial question, he stated that his goal was to get legal on all his software, which I personally applaud. Our answers are offered in the context of helping him meet that goal.

~Terry

colyla

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01/28/2006 02:08:56 PM · #12

I just received my new laptop and with the software I received (MS office) it says on the little piece of paper on the inside that I can install this "SAME" software on 3 of my home computers at NO extra cost! I had heard this before but had also heard they quit doing it....well apparently not!

Gotta love good news like that! :)

EDIT: just read that you were asking about XP...maybe it's only for software and not the OS. :/

Message edited by author 2006-01-28 14:10:47.

01/28/2006 02:12:22 PM · #13

Originally posted by ggbudge:

James, Here's what you're looking for. It's from Microsoft's Knowledgebase.

George

im not sure if that would work on SP 2. I did the work around to get SP 2 instaled, but they have since locked it down and I cant get ANY updates anymore.

James

01/28/2006 02:15:29 PM · #14

Originally posted by jab119:

I dont want to lose my programs on my desk top as it will take me a week or 2 to get every thing re-installed.

James

You may be stuck with that. I installed 98se overtop of previous installs many times with no serious side effects. I don't know what will happen if you install XP over XP though that would be the first thing I would try (after a complete backup of course!!!)

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

01/28/2006 02:16:42 PM · #15

Originally posted by Geocide:

It funny how everyone gets all moral whenever a software question comes up. And the original question never gets answered.

I was trying to help him with his legality question. No morality involved. Just misunderstood the scenario...

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

01/28/2006 02:20:50 PM · #16

Originally posted by //www.tunexp.com/faqs/windows_xp_faq/:

Moving an OEM version of XP is usually not allowed by the OEM EULA, so a call to the activation center will probably disallow activation on the new PC even when removed from the old PC. According to MicrosoftÂ©, OEM versions are technically linked to the PC to which they are first installed. Consult the vendor EULA and OEM EULA for exceptions and requirements. I.E. the Dell EULA allows transfer with the motherboard.

Sorry, I know it's not the news you want to hear. :(

Edited to add: You can usually buy OEM copies of WinXP at computer shows for much less than the full retail-boxed version. For this to be strictly legal, the OEM license can only be sold if it accompanies hardware. Last I checked, a mouse counts.

~Terry

Message edited by author 2006-01-28 14:25:49.

ggbudge

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

01/28/2006 02:21:27 PM · #17

Originally posted by jab119:

im not sure if that would work on SP 2. I did the work around to get SP 2 instaled, but they have since locked it down and I cant get ANY updates anymore.

James

I'm not sure, I just did a google search on the words and that was one of the results.

Is there any way you can back out of the sp2 (uninstall) and then reinstall afterwards?

ggbudge

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

01/28/2006 02:23:09 PM · #18

On the other hand, I don't think the xp home key will work on the pro version. You'll probably have to install home over pro.

dpdave

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01/28/2006 02:27:36 PM · #19

Originally posted by TooCool:

Originally posted by jab119:
I dont want to lose my programs on my desk top as it will take me a week or 2 to get every thing re-installed.

James

You may be stuck with that. I installed 98se overtop of previous installs many times with no serious side effects. I don't know what will happen if you install XP over XP though that would be the first thing I would try (after a complete backup of course!!!)

On a related note, I am considering upgrading from XP Home to XP Pro. Will Pro install on top of home with out causing problems with existing programs?

01/28/2006 02:28:27 PM · #20

I was thinking more along the lines of a new boot partition with the legal version of XP, but not sure how that will act since 2 versions of XP would be on the same system, 1 would be the boot OS and run the system, but the old version would still be in my registry so I not so sure it would work.

I may just have to keep using this until I can find a better solution

James

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

01/28/2006 02:32:59 PM · #21

Originally posted by dpdave:

On a related note, I am considering upgrading from XP Home to XP Pro. Will Pro install on top of home with out causing problems with existing programs?

Microsoft software tends to be more readily upgrade friendly. I would think this would work reasonably well but there are others I'm sure who are better knowledged in this...

wavelength

Nikon D300

01/28/2006 02:34:57 PM · #22

I think all you should really have to do is run a repair installation from the new XP disk, it should ask you to give the proper key code from this cd of XP.

You will have to re-install SP2 and some other things, but many of your original settings and preferenced will be brought into the new install.

Creating a new partition will work, but you'll have to re-install everything, and that is what you wanted to avoid to begin with right?

wavelength

Nikon D300

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01/28/2006 02:38:20 PM · #23

Originally posted by dpdave:

On a related note, I am considering upgrading from XP Home to XP Pro. Will Pro install on top of home with out causing problems with existing programs?

YES

wavelength

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Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

01/28/2006 02:54:56 PM · #24

Originally posted by jab119:

Just to be completely clear, since I killed the thread anyways... Installing WinXP into a new HD partition WILL NOT bring th registry into the new install. You're only hope of installing the proper key code into the previously installed version is to open the XP repair installation, that will rebuild your registry from scratch and try to maintian any registry entries from the old install that it can. This usually does not run perfectly, and removes any windows update specific modifications. All XP patches and service packs will have to be re-installed.

Your only other option is installing fresh, and that would be what you are doing with installing on a new partition, because there is no function in windows for it to rebuild the registry based on another copy of a registrry, unless a repair installation is being run.