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01/24/2006 03:33:50 AM · #1
Over on the Canon 10D/20D forum they are saying a lot of stores are now listing the 20D as `discontinued`. This is good news.

1. The announcement of the 30D/35D/50D (take your pick) is imminent and there is going to be a direct replacement soon.

2. The price of used 20Ds is likely to plummet, so some good bargains to be had.

I have money saved up for my new canon, just cant wait to see what I am buying!
01/24/2006 03:56:47 AM · #2
FOR SALE
Canon 20D
US$1800

Help me finance the purchase of my next 30D/35D/50D (take your pick).

*just kidding*
01/24/2006 04:15:25 AM · #3
ohhhh, I'm looking into buying a 20d, just waiting for the 30d to come out, and for me to have enough money...
01/24/2006 04:32:58 AM · #4
You could also consider a Sony 7D Maxxum (does that sound strange or what?) Sony will surely have to come up with strong marketing incentives very soon to get a foothold in the world of Canon and Nikon.
01/24/2006 04:40:44 AM · #5
Originally posted by Didymus:

You could also consider a Sony 7D Maxxum (does that sound strange or what?) Sony will surely have to come up with strong marketing incentives very soon to get a foothold in the world of Canon and Nikon.


You betcha. Sony is very capable in securing itself a market if they are focused. Just look at how they dominated the video game console market, the multimedia electronics market and their recent P&S camera business is booming as well. It would be cool to see some new dSLRs from them soon :) More choices for us consumers is always a good thing!
01/24/2006 05:18:44 AM · #6
Originally posted by crayon:

You betcha. Sony is very capable in securing itself a market if they are focused. Just look at how they dominated the video game console market, the multimedia electronics market and their recent P&S camera business is booming as well. It would be cool to see some new dSLRs from them soon :) More choices for us consumers is always a good thing!


Although - just wait till they change the compact flash card to a sony memory stick so you have to spend more money with sony to make it work!
01/24/2006 06:23:48 AM · #7
Wow I love the bias of people who have probably never known anything else. Sony's 828, and I presume, but haven't checked, the R1 come with both MS and CF! Point 2: MS's aren't that much more expensive, with 3rd parties available, and they are more reliable, haven't had a failed one yet. Point 3: What makes the CF the holy grail of memory formats anyway, because Canon use CF's? So why aren't Kodak paid out for using SD's etc.? Point 4: (and this is the bitterest) I am excited by the 20D's images over the Sony's by a long way don't get me wrong: but first service necessary on the 828: 11 months (CF port issue!) first service on the 20D: 3 months. Now the 20D is a superior camera I'm not arguing that, but it isn't simply a matter of Canon/Nikon/SLR rules everything else is crap, stupid and idiotic. Heaven forbid I say that Canon don't do everything brilliantly. I better watch out. My head is marked!!!!
01/24/2006 06:25:39 AM · #8
Originally posted by RichSeal:

Originally posted by crayon:

You betcha. Sony is very capable in securing itself a market if they are focused. Just look at how they dominated the video game console market, the multimedia electronics market and their recent P&S camera business is booming as well. It would be cool to see some new dSLRs from them soon :) More choices for us consumers is always a good thing!


Although - just wait till they change the compact flash card to a sony memory stick so you have to spend more money with sony to make it work!


Sony's proprietary memory cards can be quite expensive, especially since they are the gatekeeper's to price and market entry for the Sony Memory Stick.
01/24/2006 06:30:57 AM · #9
Originally posted by pgatt:

What makes the CF the holy grail of memory formats anyway, because Canon use CF's?


CF Cards are an "open" standard format. Due to this, nobody controls who can or cannot enter the market. This allows for all sorts of price points and comensurate levels of quality. In a way, CF cards are akin to the PC market.

Sony Memory Sticks are still proprietary, sure newcomers have been entering the market with their version of the stick, but they pay a licensing fee to Sony, which was only really made affordable, right around the time that you started seeing other companies produce those memory types.
01/24/2006 06:34:19 AM · #10
Originally posted by rgo:

FOR SALE
Canon 20D
US$1800

Help me finance the purchase of my next 30D/35D/50D (take your pick).

*just kidding*


LOL! I am actually hoping the new Canon is NOT worth the upgrade from the 20d. If it is, I may sell my 300d (my back-up camera) and a couple of my lenses to get it...LOL I'd rather sell my lenses to get more lenses. Ackkk.......I don't know what I will do!
01/24/2006 09:18:49 AM · #11
Originally posted by Nelzie:

Originally posted by pgatt:

What makes the CF the holy grail of memory formats anyway, because Canon use CF's?


CF Cards are an "open" standard format. Due to this, nobody controls who can or cannot enter the market. This allows for all sorts of price points and comensurate levels of quality. In a way, CF cards are akin to the PC market.

Sony Memory Sticks are still proprietary, sure newcomers have been entering the market with their version of the stick, but they pay a licensing fee to Sony, which was only really made affordable, right around the time that you started seeing other companies produce those memory types.


SD cards are the future. Smaller, do not require battery power, and do not have those stupid pins that bend. Expect to see most new high end cameras accept CF and SD.
01/24/2006 09:44:04 AM · #12
Originally posted by LoudDog:


SD cards are the future. Smaller, do not require battery power, and do not have those stupid pins that bend. Expect to see most new high end cameras accept CF and SD.


SD cards are less open then CF cards, but are more open then Sony Memory Sticks are.

SD cards are indeed smaller then CF cards, but smaller isn't necesarily a good thing. I find it easier to handle CF cards then SD cards. They still use power, just a slightly smaller amount then larger memory cards, you have to apply power to them in order to modify the information stored on them.

Plus SD are still subject to royalty fees, which only increases their costs. For example, looking at 512MB 40x SD and CF cards shows a $6 difference, with the SD being more costly. Granted this price differential lessons as one purchase higher capacity memory cards, but not everyone purchases 1GB+ cards as an everyday thing.
01/24/2006 09:48:34 AM · #13
Originally posted by LoudDog:

Originally posted by Nelzie:

Originally posted by pgatt:

What makes the CF the holy grail of memory formats anyway, because Canon use CF's?


CF Cards are an "open" standard format. Due to this, nobody controls who can or cannot enter the market. This allows for all sorts of price points and comensurate levels of quality. In a way, CF cards are akin to the PC market.

Sony Memory Sticks are still proprietary, sure newcomers have been entering the market with their version of the stick, but they pay a licensing fee to Sony, which was only really made affordable, right around the time that you started seeing other companies produce those memory types.


SD cards are the future. Smaller, do not require battery power, and do not have those stupid pins that bend. Expect to see most new high end cameras accept CF and SD.


i think your probably right about that.
that said, i still like CF, only because it seems less fragile, not saying it is, just that it seems
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