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01/19/2006 09:57:04 AM · #26
Better get used to Memory Sticks....!!
01/19/2006 11:02:27 AM · #27
Originally posted by legalbeagle:

Better get used to Memory Sticks....!!


or 3 1/2 inch floppy disks :þ
01/19/2006 11:23:25 AM · #28
Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by alionic:

My favorite merger would be Nikon/Zeiss that would be nice aye?


favourite merger? hehe... how about microsoft and a digital camera company? each time the shutter release button is pressed, you get a prompt on the LCD saying "Are you sure you want to take the photo?" and you'll have to click on the "YES" button to continue.


Or you get a message saying: "You have performed an illegal operation, the camera will now shut down" and you get the blue screen of death and the camera reboots itself...


What if Apple got into it? The camera would only have one button. A very big, shiny one though.
01/19/2006 11:25:05 AM · #29
I have a K-M Dimage A200 that I just adore.
01/19/2006 11:28:22 AM · #30
I feel smarter today!
I almost bought a konica minolta laser printer yesterday.

sorry to see a good company go, but i bet we see a Sony branded dSLR very very soon!
01/19/2006 11:31:49 AM · #31
Love my A2 also :-(

Prof I think there staying in the print business this is all about the camera and film part of the business, which is clearly not that big as there only talking a small reduction in staff.

Pete
01/19/2006 11:32:31 AM · #32
Originally posted by TG73:

I have a K-M Dimage A200 that I just adore.


Me too. :-(
01/19/2006 11:36:34 AM · #33
Actually, their scanner and imaging business is pretty big overseas. But their inroads into the digital SLR realm were too slow as everyone said many times before.

If Minolta had come out with a low-cost option that was still good enough, it may have worked for them.

This is an end to an era guys. Minolta was the SLR for the everyday guy, not just pro's, and now they'll never make a camera again (most likely). :-(
01/19/2006 11:40:05 AM · #34
don't forget ziess is now making MF lenses for Nikon F mount =) =) =)

//www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B58B9/?Open
01/19/2006 11:41:03 AM · #35
Thinking about it, there was already a lrge degree of collaboration between these companies: I have a Konica KD400Z, which was the first camera to use two memory cards - SD and Memory Stick. First non-Sony brand to use memory stick, I think.
01/19/2006 11:45:09 AM · #36
Originally posted by AJAger:

Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by alionic:

My favorite merger would be Nikon/Zeiss that would be nice aye?


favourite merger? hehe... how about microsoft and a digital camera company? each time the shutter release button is pressed, you get a prompt on the LCD saying "Are you sure you want to take the photo?" and you'll have to click on the "YES" button to continue.


Or you get a message saying: "You have performed an illegal operation, the camera will now shut down" and you get the blue screen of death and the camera reboots itself...


What if Apple got into it? The camera would only have one button. A very big, shiny one though.


And take a picture for you, process it, print it, send it on your Blog, email it to your family and friends, and make you look hip walking around with...LMAO!
01/19/2006 01:12:07 PM · #37
This is the main reason why I didn't opt for a Minolta DSLR even though I have been a Minolta film SLR user since I was about 11 (1982-ish).

Firstly there was the problem of them not launching a DSLR until competitors had already been selling various models for a good couple of years. I didn't want to wait, since I had no idea at that point whether they would EVER launch one.

And secondly, my feeling was that by leaving it so late they had pretty much screwed themselves - sooooo many loyal Minolta film SLR users like me had already jumped ship to Canon or Nikon because Minolta gave us no choice if we wanted to go digital. Why would those users come back having invested in other systems? Although they did make sales to those loyal folks who were willing to wait and also to some who were tempted over by the IS body I couldn't imagine, when I first heard of the launch of the Maxxim 7D, that their sales would be enough to persuade them to stay in the market let alone to launch new products as swiftly as Canon or Nikon.

I don't often see stuff coming in advance but this was one I definitely did. A sad day indeed, as I still have a hugely fond spot for Minolta.

Message edited by author 2006-01-19 13:12:27.
01/19/2006 01:14:43 PM · #38
Originally posted by legalbeagle:

Thinking about it, there was already a lrge degree of collaboration between these companies: I have a Konica KD400Z, which was the first camera to use two memory cards - SD and Memory Stick.


???

Um...when did it come out? My Olympus E-20 (and I believe even the E-10) supported dual memory cards. Compact Flash & Smartmedia. So I seriously seriously doubt that the Konica

Announced 24-Feb-02 Konica Minolta KD-400Z
Announced 22-Aug-00/13-Sep-01 Olympus E-10/E-20 respectively

Man...poor Olympus get's no credit for nothing? Forgotten in the list of DSLR makers, forgotten for having dual-memory support. Sure, it wasn't Smartmedia and MemStick (which were newer formats). But it ain't a new feature for sure.
01/19/2006 01:25:29 PM · #39
Originally posted by PeterC:

Love my A2 also :-(

Prof I think there staying in the print business this is all about the camera and film part of the business, which is clearly not that big as there only talking a small reduction in staff.

Pete


3700 jobs, a bit over 10%. Also on their global website they are giving up most if not all of their camera/film/photo/minilab biz as well. Officer changes too - a bit of a reorganizaion. I remember when xerox and IBM pulled out of the consumer printer biz. Anyone got any info on what their market share is for their various subsidiaries?
01/19/2006 01:41:04 PM · #40
Might also note that Pentax and Samsung have mutual development contracts and Samsung has just announced a DSLR that looks suspiciously like the Pentax DS2. However, there is a Schneider lens available for the new DSLR!
01/19/2006 01:44:18 PM · #41
Guess I should buy up some glass for my Minolta 600si 35mm SLR, while I can still get it.

Edit: Wait a minute... Sony... Zeis .... hmmmmm... Zeis glass on my old Minolta? Sounds kinda yummy.

Message edited by author 2006-01-19 13:45:56.
01/19/2006 01:49:10 PM · #42
Originally posted by ElGordo:

Might also note that Pentax and Samsung have mutual development contracts and Samsung has just announced a DSLR that looks suspiciously like the Pentax DS2. However, there is a Schneider lens available for the new DSLR!


The new camera *is* the DS2, just rebadged.

The new Schneider lens is the Pentax 18-55mm, just rebadged.

There's nothing *actually* new about this kit in any way, shape, or form except the writing on them.
01/19/2006 01:51:03 PM · #43
I wouldn't stress too hard about it just yet. Sony also took a minority stake in the plant where they manufacture the dSLRs, and they have been developing them together since July anyway. Odds are they'll just build on the current body/lens system with a Sony logo. Otherwise why would Sony bother to purchase those assets?

Future cams will likely use the memory stick or some combination of MS and another format.

Memory Sticks look like chewing gum.

P

edit: see?



Message edited by author 2006-01-19 13:53:32.
01/19/2006 01:52:48 PM · #44
Originally posted by Pedro:

I wouldn't stress too hard about it just yet. Sony also took a minority stake in the plant where they manufacture the dSLRs, and they have been developing them together since July anyway. Odds are they'll just build on the current body/lens system with a Sony logo. Otherwise why would Sony bother to purchase those assets?

Future cams will likely use the memory stick or some combination of MS and another format.

Memory Sticks look like chewing gum.

P


I'd imagine they'd go more towards the smaller Memory Stick Duo and Memory Stick Pro Duo, personally. Easier to make room for.
01/19/2006 02:04:00 PM · #45
Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by alionic:

My favorite merger would be Nikon/Zeiss that would be nice aye?


favourite merger? hehe... how about microsoft and a digital camera company? each time the shutter release button is pressed, you get a prompt on the LCD saying "Are you sure you want to take the photo?" and you'll have to click on the "YES" button to continue.


Not to mention the maze of help menus and system crashes. At least you could just turn the camera off and back on again. :()
01/19/2006 02:22:16 PM · #46
Originally posted by mpeters:

Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by alionic:

My favorite merger would be Nikon/Zeiss that would be nice aye?


favourite merger? hehe... how about microsoft and a digital camera company? each time the shutter release button is pressed, you get a prompt on the LCD saying "Are you sure you want to take the photo?" and you'll have to click on the "YES" button to continue.


Not to mention the maze of help menus and system crashes. At least you could just turn the camera off and back on again. :()

.. but you might have to pay a royalty.
01/19/2006 02:26:44 PM · #47
An interesting forum regarding this at photo.net. A post by 'Matt' at 7:27 AM was thought provoking.

I found the above mentioned forum when looking for a link to the "The Coming DSLR Explosion" article that was in the December 2005 issue of Popular Photography magazine (which talked about the Sony/Minolta partnership). I have no affiliation with photo.net - never heard of it until a few minutes ago. ;^)

Minolta Forum:Konica Minolta pull out
01/19/2006 02:51:04 PM · #48
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Guess I should buy up some glass for my Minolta 600si 35mm SLR, while I can still get it.

Edit: Wait a minute... Sony... Zeis .... hmmmmm... Zeis glass on my old Minolta? Sounds kinda yummy.


That's what I'm saying!!!! When I read several months ago about the two companies working together, something told me that wasn't good news for Minolta. But, I think that Sony will be pretty likely to follow their good ideas, such as IS and other camera specs.

But I think that Zeiss lenses are a really good possibility in the future. Sony slaps a Zeiss on practically everything they make, so I can't imagine them leaving the DSLRs out of that deal! The only bummer there is that I would be willing to bet they'll cost a pretty penny.

I wonder if the coming months will offer some low prices on Minolta lenses?
01/19/2006 04:10:31 PM · #49
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

What a sad day, my first SLR 20 years ago was a Minolta



I now have a good selection of quality glass for the Minolta mount, I really hope Sony don't screw up. It doesn't fill me with optimism though. At least (from what I can gather) Minolta will still carry on making most of the camera, it will have a Sony badge though. :-(


Mine too. I was saddened when the name changed to Konica-Minolta and the only Sony digital I have seen had a floppy disk as storage. Granted, that was a few years ago and I haven't really looked at Sony digicams since. I am encouraged though that the camera's we do own will benefit from new innovations and deeper pockets. I have been waiting, like all others, I presume, for the 9d announcement in February. I don't like the idea of having to wait until the end of the year for an upgrade to the 7d. Too bad. I can't feel too bad for myself, I feel worse for the KM employees who have poured their hearts into this company and will be out of a job. "Only in the Minds of Minolta"
01/19/2006 05:39:15 PM · #50
For me this is a great shame and the end of an era. From the time that upgraded my Praktica LTL3, back in 1979, I have always used Minolta - X300, X700, Dimage 5 and A1. Just at the beginning of December I took the plunge into the DSLR market and went for the KM 5D. My wife has also been working through the Z series of KM cameras too. Just a week ago we decided to go for the X1 as a pocket-sized, readily available, point and press camera.

I appreciate that that they were late into the digital market but I wanted to wait and was not disappointed. The cameras/technology just worked for me.

My big concern is what to do now. I already have the 18-70 and 55-200 lenses. In a couple of months, when my wife goes to the States, I was intending to complete the range with a wide fisheye and a 11-18 zoom. Now, I am not so sure.

Although Sony have said that they will continue to support the lens, what will the cameras be like? Will they have some of KM's R&D to develop a new camera or what? I don't really wish to spend £400-500 purchasing new lenses which, eventually, may be of no use!

Does anybody have any theories/ideas as to what may happen?

Cheers
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