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 01/18/2006 03:19:16 PM · #1
When uploading an image either to a challenge or portfolio have the image settings fields auto poulate with EXIF information.

I did a search on google and it looks like it would be a pretty small amount of code to do this.

Edit: even when I convert my images to jpg it they still contain camera info etc.

Message edited by author 2006-01-18 15:20:59.
 01/18/2006 03:21:50 PM · #2
Originally posted by Megatherian:
When uploading an image either to a challenge or portfolio have the image settings fields auto poulate with EXIF information.

I did a search on google and it looks like it would be a pretty small amount of code to do this.

Edit: even when I convert my images to jpg it they still contain camera info etc.


That assumes that everyone saves the "small" images with EXIF.
 01/18/2006 03:25:33 PM · #3
It would be transparent to the people who don't have the info in their file - the fields just wouldn't auto populate.

For those of us that do have it in the file though it would be a time saver. Not to mention the numbers of photos on the site with the information would increase significantly thus helping the rest of us learn more about the shots we love :)
 01/18/2006 03:27:13 PM · #4
Originally posted by ursula:
That assumes that everyone saves the "small" images with EXIF.


Very true... I (and I assume a lot of others) start with a fresh canvas at a given size (ie 640x480) and paste into that canvas. That way I can crop and resize more efficiently.

Thus, the EXIF data is lost.
 01/18/2006 03:28:55 PM · #5
but it wouldn't hurt anything - it would only help those of us that DO have the information in there. I don't see how that's a bad thing.

Edit: Damn drunken fingers

Message edited by author 2006-01-18 15:29:27.
 01/18/2006 03:39:38 PM · #6
Wouldn't the allowed file size (currently limited to 150k) need to changed by some amount to include EXIF? Even if it's only 4k as someone once pointed out, I wouldn't want to lose it (i.e. - only have 146k left for image data).
 01/18/2006 03:42:17 PM · #7
There is a script for Adobe CS which puts in some of the exif data on a border. Thought some of you might be interested. Here is an example


01/18/2006 03:43:07 PM · #8
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Wouldn't the allowed file size (currently limited to 150k) need to changed by some amount to include EXIF? Even if it's only 4k as someone once pointed out, I wouldn't want to lose it (i.e. - only have 146k left for image data).


I'm not suggesting we require everyone's photos contain exif data. The users here wouldn't need to change anything in their process at all.

Some people on here (like me) still have their exif data in their jpg files though. All I'm asking is that IF the file contains that data when it is uploaded, auto poulate the fields. If it does not contain that info then fine, nothing will happen and you have the option to either fill in the fields manually or not.
 01/18/2006 03:43:58 PM · #9
Originally posted by MikeOwens:
There is a script for Adobe CS which puts in some of the exif data on a border. Thought some of you might be interested. Here is an example



Unfortunately that image wouldn't be allowed in challenges though.
 01/18/2006 03:46:31 PM · #10
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Wouldn't the allowed file size (currently limited to 150k) need to changed by some amount to include EXIF? Even if it's only 4k as someone once pointed out, I wouldn't want to lose it (i.e. - only have 146k left for image data).


I'm not suggesting we require everyone's photos contain exif data. The users here wouldn't need to change anything in their process at all.

Some people on here (like me) still have their exif data in their jpg files though. All I'm asking is that IF the file contains that data when it is uploaded, auto poulate the fields. If it does not contain that info then fine, nothing will happen and you have the option to either fill in the fields manually or not.


But I would like to have the automation as well AND keep 150k just for the image file...so I then need approx 154k.
 01/18/2006 03:48:20 PM · #11
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Wouldn't the allowed file size (currently limited to 150k) need to changed by some amount to include EXIF? Even if it's only 4k as someone once pointed out, I wouldn't want to lose it (i.e. - only have 146k left for image data).


I'm not suggesting we require everyone's photos contain exif data. The users here wouldn't need to change anything in their process at all.

I believe the current code not only doesn't auto-populate those fields, it actually strips out any EXIF data it finds.

I don't know the why or wherefore of that though ... only the admins see the actual code.
 01/18/2006 03:51:31 PM · #12
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Originally posted by MikeOwens:
There is a script for Adobe CS which puts in some of the exif data on a border. Thought some of you might be interested. Here is an example



Unfortunately that image wouldn't be allowed in challenges though.


Yeh I know that :-)

- I was posting it just for some info - some people might be interested in it.

Mike

01/18/2006 03:57:46 PM · #13
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Wouldn't the allowed file size (currently limited to 150k) need to changed by some amount to include EXIF? Even if it's only 4k as someone once pointed out, I wouldn't want to lose it (i.e. - only have 146k left for image data).


I'm not suggesting we require everyone's photos contain exif data. The users here wouldn't need to change anything in their process at all.

I believe the current code not only doesn't auto-populate those fields, it actually strips out any EXIF data it finds.

I don't know the why or wherefore of that though ... only the admins see the actual code.


I know it doesn't currently auto-populate that's my suggestion, that it would auto-populate
 01/18/2006 04:01:34 PM · #14
Originally posted by Megatherian:
I know it doesn't currently auto-populate that's my suggestion, that it would auto-populate

I understood that ... that's why I phrased it "not only doesn't ..." : )

We still have to wait for the admins to consider your suggestion.
 01/18/2006 04:23:52 PM · #15
Originally posted by MikeOwens:
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Originally posted by MikeOwens:
There is a script for Adobe CS which puts in some of the exif data on a border. Thought some of you might be interested. Here is an example



Unfortunately that image wouldn't be allowed in challenges though.


Yeh I know that :-)

- I was posting it just for some info - some people might be interested in it.

Mike


Mike.... Where do you get that script?

Message edited by author 2006-01-18 16:26:51.
 01/18/2006 05:03:35 PM · #16
Andre - I have sent you a PM

Mike

01/18/2006 05:17:41 PM · #17
Using "Save for Web" in Photoshop automatically strips out EXIF, thumbnails and other extraneous info. If you leave that stuff in your entry, then you are cutting into the 150Kb allowed and sabotaging your own entry's quality to some degree.
 01/18/2006 05:21:24 PM · #18
Originally posted by scalvert:
Using "Save for Web" in Photoshop automatically strips out EXIF, thumbnails and other extraneous info. If you leave that stuff in your entry, then you are cutting into the 150Kb allowed and sabotaging your own entry's quality to some degree.


exactly. + it converts your image into 72 DPI resolution AFAIK
 01/18/2006 05:25:11 PM · #19
I did a test and gained less than 1Kb by leaving the EXIF info on the image. I can live with that.

But again, I'm not trying to change anyone's work flow.

Message edited by author 2006-01-18 17:26:04.
 01/18/2006 05:33:41 PM · #20
I think that is a good idea. No need to increase anything, if the person wanted to save some typing at the small expense of the EXIF data then up to them. Does not hurt anybody. Obviously PS save for web will drop them but not save as or output from the RAW converters around.
 01/18/2006 05:38:34 PM · #21
Then people would know when voting what you shot with -- and vote down the cameras they dont like -- and that would happen, without a doubt.
 01/18/2006 05:40:29 PM · #22
Originally posted by dpaull:
Then people would know when voting what you shot with -- and vote down the cameras they dont like -- and that would happen, without a doubt.

Automatically filling-in the data doesn't mean it would be displayed during voting -- the data which is entered manually now isn't displayed either. They are separate issues.
 01/18/2006 05:53:28 PM · #23
Originally posted by dpaull:
Then people would know when voting what you shot with -- and vote down the cameras they dont like -- and that would happen, without a doubt.


Or they would be like, "you got that shot with THAT camera?"
01/18/2006 06:17:14 PM · #24
Originally posted by scalvert:
... If you leave that stuff in your entry, then you are cutting into the 150Kb allowed and sabotaging your own entry's quality to some degree.

Exactly! That's what I was saying earlier. Sometimes it's only a small difference when trying to save at the best (lowest) compression possible. FYI - I use PSP and don't have "Save for Web"...have to set the compression ratio and watch the file size (it shows when changing settings).
02/19/2006 04:55:31 PM · #25
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Megatherian:

I'm not suggesting we require everyone's photos contain exif data. The users here wouldn't need to change anything in their process at all.

I believe the current code not only doesn't auto-populate those fields, it actually strips out any EXIF data it finds.

Autopulating with EXIF data would reduce data entry errors and help inform those whose camera dates are off that there is a problem and save them the embarassment of disqualification.

It is standard practice in computer programming to autopopulate fields if the incoming data contains the needed information or leave fields blank if they do not. The customer is allowed to modify a populated field if they want to. This provides customers the best possible service.

In the DPC case those that upload with EXIF data do not to have to enter it but they can change it if they want. Those that don't upload EXIF continue to enter data just as before. If EXIF data needs to be removed for application reasons it can be done after the fields are populated.

Message edited by author 2006-02-19 16:55:54.
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