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01/18/2006 11:27:39 AM · #1 |
Hi
I was wondering if anybody could give me a little hand on how to go about creating a super high key photograph. (Something like the Memoirs of a Geisha movie poster if you've seen it) //ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/53/42/49m.jpg
Ideally, if it could be reproduced at home without any fancy strobe lights or anything.
I'll have access to a studio soon (though that would be my first time in a studio), so if it's the only way to go ahead with it, then I'll have to try it then.
any help would be mostly appreciate it
Oh.. by the way.. this is for a class assignment, so I can't really touch it up in photoshop. it needs to be done in camera.
Thanks
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01/18/2006 11:29:29 AM · #2 |
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01/18/2006 11:32:13 AM · #3 |
Link is broken ... but is this the image you want ?
//us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/memoirs_of_a_geisha/ziyi_zhang/memoirsofageisha_teaser.jpg
If this is it... it's not exactly high key, but rather creatively over-exposed.
Message edited by author 2006-01-18 11:33:39.
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01/18/2006 11:44:13 AM · #4 |
A high-key image is one in which there is a lot of difference between the highlights and shadows. [I hope that definition is correct :)]
You can use proper lighting in a studio to create a high key image, but that does not work all the time. Next best thing is to use Photoshop or any other decent program to create the highkey effect, by using levels and curves to selectively adjust the tones. Also you could use dodging and burning.
See this tutorial for more information. It uses Photoshop, but you can use other software to get the same effect. Once you get the concept, it will be easy.
//www.ephotozine.com/techniques/viewtechnique.cfm?recid=361 |
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01/18/2006 11:46:46 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by ignite:
A high-key image is one in which there is a lot of difference between the highlights and shadows. [I hope that definition is correct :)]
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I think that would be high-contrast.
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01/18/2006 11:48:17 AM · #6 |
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01/18/2006 11:50:19 AM · #7 |
You think so? I'd have thought it was just the white makeup that Geishas use.
If it were overexposed you expect the see the lip gloss glaring more wouldn't you? |
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01/18/2006 11:50:25 AM · #8 |
| Well I guess the definition is not important as long as you know what you want ;-) |
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01/18/2006 11:53:36 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by ignite:
A high-key image is one in which there is a lot of difference between the highlights and shadows. [I hope that definition is correct :)] |
Actually High-key is where you devide the histograph into fifths and all your color information is in the whitest fifth. Low-key would have all the color data in the blackest fifth.
High-key geisha:
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01/18/2006 11:54:34 AM · #10 |
To do this out of the camera, which is what I think you are asking you would need a soft even lighting with no shadow and then over expose several stops. To get an image like the one taken of the Geisha it would be very hard to get without post processing.
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01/18/2006 12:03:41 PM · #11 |
To get close in-camera ... you'll need a VERY light-skinned model with black hair. You'll want to over-exagerate the makeup. Lipstick for instance should be much darker than this appears and have almost no shine to it. You'll probably also want to use a very light base makeup and foundation. Eyeliner and shadow should be very dark colors.
You should be able to over-expose her a bit and get close to this effect. You're not going to be able to get it exactly w/o some photoshop, but you can get acceptible results. Like someone else said, you will need a very broad, even and soft source of light.
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01/18/2006 12:44:38 PM · #12 |
i lit this with a regular incandescent desk lamp slightly above eye level. 2 light sources might get rid of most of the shadows. then i just played around with contrast and tones. i'm not fair skinned but i do have black hair so i could bump the contrast pretty high.
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01/18/2006 12:49:54 PM · #13 |
Would this be considered high-key?
Most of the effect of this shot was done in-camera via overexposure.
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01/18/2006 12:54:03 PM · #14 |
Hi.. thanks for all the replies..
sorry.. yeah.. I meant high contrast (or quite over-exposed)
I didn't think that by just over exposing would do it, though I'm planning to do a few tests very soon to get a feel for it..
just wanted to get a bit of a head start and start thinking what I need and how to approach it..
Thanks again
javier |
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01/18/2006 01:07:06 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by justin_hewlett:
Would this be considered high-key?
Most of the effect of this shot was done in-camera via overexposure. |
That would almost be high-key. Actually looking at the histogram in PS, there is a hump in the second 20% and the black border spikes the blacks. To make it high-key in PS do a levels and move the grey point to about 2.0. |
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01/18/2006 01:26:39 PM · #16 |
High key.
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01/18/2006 01:35:16 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
High key. |
YUP! This is EXACTLY what high key is...
high key are very low contrast image with all the exposure info in the top end of the histogram.
The Geisha movie poster is high-contrast.
Message edited by author 2006-01-18 13:35:53.
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01/18/2006 02:43:44 PM · #18 |
so.. to get it straight :)
high key can be done by over exposing
but high contrast? is it possible to achive it in-camera in an easy way?
I know that it's not too hard in photoshop since you can play with the highlights and the shadows.. but it seems that in the camera you are exposing for either one or the other so it's hard to get that big difference between the two.. am I correct?
seems like things like clever makeup and things like that can help achieve this look easier..
Javier |
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01/18/2006 02:47:26 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by jsolsona:
so.. to get it straight :)
high key can be done by over exposing
but high contrast? is it possible to achive it in-camera in an easy way?
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With selective lighting and other methods depending on the desired effect (make-up was mentioned) it is quite obtainable in camera. To the extent of the Geisha image? Well, perhaps, with a lot of practice.
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