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01/14/2006 09:32:58 PM · #1
Is it ok in advanced editing to 'add ' some colour?.. by using the brush tool ????

01/14/2006 09:37:56 PM · #2
I don't think the brush tool is ever allowed, but you can use the sponge tool to add some saturation that is already there....
01/14/2006 09:41:00 PM · #3
cool, thanks wavelength.. i didn't think so , just wanted to make sure...

01/14/2006 09:44:36 PM · #4
You can also (I think / hope) use the clone or healing brush to make small modifications to add color in a small area ...
01/14/2006 09:45:55 PM · #5
I'd say you would be able to use the brush tool with a colour if you're using the same rough colour as your background to remove a minor element.
01/14/2006 09:47:19 PM · #6
Most likely, use of the brush tool is going to amount to "adding a major element." I'd steer clear of it, personally.
01/14/2006 10:26:01 PM · #7
thanks everyone, i will steer clear of it....
01/15/2006 12:27:45 AM · #8
There's practically nothing you can't change the color of, technically speaking, in advanced editing by using a selection tool and a selective color adjustment layer. For example, if you have a sunset with the sun and some clouds completely blown out, you can add a hint of yellow by using the white range in selective color. Is your sky too grey for you? Select it, use selective color and add some cyan and a trace of magenta maybe to the "neutral" channel. It's really not hard at all, assuming you have good selection skills.

Even in basic editing, if you have that same sunset and the only truly white areas are blown-out sun and cloud fringes, you can throw some color in there with selective color's white range without any selection of specific areas at all.

Robt.
01/15/2006 12:38:49 AM · #9
So, basically because of the brush tool, following this tutorial would not be okay, if I wanted to enter an image into a challenge?

Photoshop in black & white

(Am trying to learn all that I can before I screw up and enter something wrong in challenges.)
01/15/2006 12:59:25 AM · #10
Originally posted by Skyarcher:

So, basically because of the brush tool, following this tutorial would not be okay, if I wanted to enter an image into a challenge?

Photoshop in black & white

(Am trying to learn all that I can before I screw up and enter something wrong in challenges.)


No, that technique is completely legal in advanced editing, and it is the more sophisticated way to attain dodge and burn effects non-destructively. Of course, like any technique it can be overused to the point where it becomes illegal. The premise of the advanced ruleset, basically, is that it is results-oriented, not tool-oriented. The basic rules limit the tools you can use, while the advanced rules primarily limit how far you can push the effect you are using. For example, in advanced editing you can use the clone tool to eliminate minor distractions, but it's illegal to use it to create an element where there was none; you can't clone clouds into an area of sky that lacked them. In basic editing, you can't use the clone tool period.

When Alan advises steering clear of the paintbrush tool he's specifically referring to using it to paint color into an image that was not already there. This was the questiona sked by the original poster. In this referenced technique, the brush is used as part of a masking system, not to add an element to an image.

In this technique, incidentally, be cautious with your use of the suggested gradients; while they are a time-honored photo-printing technique, there is considerable ongoing debate as to whether an extremely obvious gradient is "adding an element" to your image. Subtle gradients are used often, though.

Robt.
01/15/2006 01:03:00 AM · #11
Thanks Robert ... so many different things to try and remember. Am glad of the response though.. otherwise I'd have to have you DQ my image over in Round 4.
01/15/2006 01:14:59 AM · #12
Originally posted by Skyarcher:

Thanks Robert ... so many different things to try and remember. Am glad of the response though.. otherwise I'd have to have you DQ my image over in Round 4.


Heaven forbid!

R.
01/15/2006 01:21:01 AM · #13
im still not sure weather what i did was legal or not, so ill just have to submit one of the others i liked for 2005, although this other one is one of 2 of the best of mine of 2005... :((((
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