Message to Pioneer and anyone who feels the same

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

01/14/2006 03:30:10 PM · #1

Originally posted by Pioneer:

Wow you are putting me in my place aren't you. Sorry I didn't respect your opinion. You were not belittled by any means, I just made a statement about a possible way to find what you were looking for. I also did not know the SC members get paid for this as you say. I always thought they were doing this without pay, but as you say they get something for their time, but I think you are wrong. I don't know what you feel you should be getting for your $25 , but most of us got our monies worth

I joined here a couple years ago now, and loved coming here. I don't participate in many challenges, but I look at them all and learn so much from all the people here.I pick up things for shooting pictures and editing, there is so much to learn here. I have found though over the last few months people getting argumentitive and rude, and I am truly sick and tired of it.It seems as thought the purpose of the site has changed, and not due to the power to be, but from some people that feel only their opions matter. I will not be participating much here any more and will not renew when it is time. This is a great site and it is very sad that it has come to this point. I am tired of attitudes, good luck to the rest of you and I hope this once again become the site it was befor.

Mike

This has just being put on another thread and I want to get peoples veiws on it.

I would also like to say to pioneer that I hope he will think again about not becoming a member. It is when a site looses the people like pioneer that the bad few take over. We are all happy that people like you use this site and I am sure now we will pull together as a community to stop any abuse of the site.

I think the easy way to put it is
Please dont give up on the site. It will get back to the old ways soon im sure:)

edit* other thread:)

Message edited by author 2006-01-14 15:51:50.

polkop

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

01/14/2006 03:38:21 PM · #2

no comments?
mavrik your right I was a bit quick I could swear it felt longer:)

Message edited by author 2006-01-14 15:42:02.

wewillexplore

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

01/14/2006 03:39:49 PM · #3

Give it more than 8 minutes.

DjFenzl

01/14/2006 03:45:21 PM · #4

Could you post a link to the original thread so we can get some context?

Normally it's not allowed to quote other threads in new threads...

goc

Apple iPhone 4

01/14/2006 03:45:52 PM · #5

what to say ? ... it happens every now and then.
to me this things are normal after 10 years of internet, people come and go ... with reason or without reason, i cannot judge them ... i'm just one of them
but is is sad when good,popular,contributing member leaves ... definetly.

my2c

peace

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

01/14/2006 03:46:38 PM · #6

I don't know.

I think the main problem is that people don't like to tell n00B's that there are ropes, much less show them where they are and what to do with them.

Half the time someone asks a legitimate newbie question, they get shot down with "search the forums, moron" type attitudes.

People do seem to get less helpful as time goes on....

Could you pos the original thread please??

RayEthier

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

01/14/2006 04:00:07 PM · #7

Originally posted by wavelength:

I
Could you pos the original thread please??

I truly don't want to come across as flippant, but........look above.

Ray

01/14/2006 04:03:11 PM · #8

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by wavelength:
I
Could you pos the original thread please??

I truly don't want to come across as flippant, but........look above.

Ray

Ray,

Wavelength's post was at 3:46, and polkop edited his post at 3:51. I think that edit was to add the link, in response to wavelength's request.

~Terry

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

01/14/2006 04:07:28 PM · #9

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Ray,

Wavelength's post was at 3:46, and polkop edited his post at 3:51. I think that edit was to add the link, in response to wavelength's request.

~Terry

yep, wasn't there before.

I missed that too. But I went though and found that it was a thread I posted to.

Weird thing is, I can't understand why he got so upset really. The responses seemed pretty civil to me, maybe I need to re-read for context.

RayEthier

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

01/14/2006 04:08:47 PM · #10

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by wavelength:
I
Could you pos the original thread please??

I truly don't want to come across as flippant, but........look above.

Ray

Ray,

Wavelength's post was at 3:46, and polkop edited his post at 3:51. I think that edit was to add the link, in response to wavelength's request.

~Terry

My apologies to Wavelenght, Kudos to Polkop, and my appreciation to Terry for showing me the error of my ways. I truly need to be more vigilant, and will strive to do that in future.

Ray.

RayEthier

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

01/14/2006 04:10:16 PM · #11

Originally posted by wavelength:

Weird thing is, I can't understand why he got so upset really. The responses seemed pretty civil to me, maybe I need to re-read for context.

I can explain that.... there were comments made that were a direct attack on Pioneer, which were subsequently removed.

Ray

01/14/2006 04:20:10 PM · #12

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by wavelength:

Weird thing is, I can't understand why he got so upset really. The responses seemed pretty civil to me, maybe I need to re-read for context.

I can explain that.... there were comments made that were a direct attack on Pioneer, which were subsequently removed.

Ray

On the other hand, the user who made the comments *did* edit his post. Maybe we should give him a little credit for realizing he said something he shouldn't and retracting that. I'm sure every one of us has at times said something we wished we could take back out of anger or frustration.

I'm not apologizing for the person who posted the comments (perhaps he should do that on his own?) but I'd hope that we, and Pioneer especially, could perhaps give that person the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

TO PIONEER: Please understand that Site Council shared your concern about the negativity in the forums lately. For whatever reason, it seems to run in cycles, and was at a high earlier this week and last week. Nonetheless, we have a responsibility to keep the forums fun and civil, and I agree we've fallen short on that responsibility recently.

This announcement should give you some insight into our awareness of the problem, and into how we intend to deal with it going forward. We welcome feedback from you and anyone else in our effectiveness in dealing with the problem, and on anything else for that matter.

~Terry

Mattel Barbie Photo Designer Digital Camera

01/14/2006 04:21:05 PM · #13

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Then it seems the person that made the comment should be urged to apologize directly to Pioneer. It's really unfortunate when that occurs.

I'll send Pioneer a PM asking that he forgive the site for one persons rudeness. It really is too bad.

nsbca7

01/14/2006 04:30:13 PM · #14

If you ask me some people are just a little thin skinned. This is a web log, not a family dinner.

01/14/2006 04:31:13 PM · #15

Originally posted by nsbca7:

If you ask me some people are just a little thin skinned. This is a web log, not a family dinner.

This site is actaully more civil than many family dinners I have attende. :P

But yeah, I know whatcha mean.

Mattel Barbie Photo Designer Digital Camera

01/14/2006 04:46:07 PM · #16

Originally posted by wavelength:

Originally posted by nsbca7:
If you ask me some people are just a little thin skinned. This is a web log, not a family dinner.

This site is actaully more civil than many family dinners I have attende. :P

Are you sure we're not related?

~Terry

nsbca7

01/14/2006 04:49:31 PM · #17

Originally posted by wavelength:

No, I think you took that wrong. Not that a family dinner is supposed to be civil, but that this is a web log and we for the most part don't know each other on an intimate basis and so should not take such comments to heart.

nsbca7

Mattel Barbie Photo Designer Digital Camera

01/14/2006 06:06:46 PM · #18

In other words it's not like sitting at the dinner table and having your uncle Vito tell you you're a long haired punk and to get a haircut. So stop throwing meatballs back across the dinner table and stop taking everything so personally.