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01/13/2006 04:11:05 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
Emo is emotional punk derivative music. There are many bands on the edge of it. Get up kids, dashboard confessional, Jimmy eat world. They usually have a whiny singer and melodramatic song styles; it can be brilliant or really annoying.
As some people say... "there ain't no crying in hardcore!"
Bands that are fake or new poppy 14 year old punk without being emo are... Blink 182; sum 41; green day; simple plan; perhaps rancid has a bit more cred to escape this? |
Dashboard is the most emo band ever...go listen to some of their songs and that'll get you on track.
The Get Up Kids rock, they are from Kansas...which makes them that much cooler. I just bought their new cd yesterday actually...
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01/13/2006 04:59:42 PM · #27 |
| think 'My Chemical Romance' (band) |
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01/13/2006 10:37:25 PM · #28 |
This was my obligatory emo shot...um...for some reason the first thing that comes to mind is 'myspace' because a lot of emo kids hang out around there, post blown out, over contrasty pictures of themselves, cry about how their girlfriends are cheating on them and how they want to drink antifreeze and have screen names like xcrybloodytearsx...
Something like that.
Pictures with their heads at odd angles, where their eyes are obscured, and generally have this 'I am so hopelessly depressed over your typical teenage angsty things' vibe to them are a plus.
Edit to add: Also, 'emo' is becoming more of a slang for 'depressed' or 'angsty' as well, generally someone who mopes around in a heartbroken way can be called emo. "Cheer up, emo kid!"
Message edited by author 2006-01-13 22:38:56.
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01/13/2006 10:47:15 PM · #29 |
emo is sulky
The one thing myspace is good for is the perfect demonstration of emo
goths muse
punks say it
emos whine because no one is listening. |
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01/13/2006 10:51:21 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
emo is sulky
The one thing myspace is good for is the perfect demonstration of emo
goths muse
punks say it
emos whine because no one is listening. |
Wow couldn't have said it better. |
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01/13/2006 10:54:45 PM · #31 |
| so 'scuss me for being dense... but emo is not the same as demi-goth...right??? |
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01/13/2006 10:54:46 PM · #32 |
As far as i'm concerned emo's a over used fad around here. It started off as a gothic "i don't care about anything" movement. I'm not sure if you've heard the "emo song" but it's pretty pathetic, lol. Basicly it's a more "extream" goth. To most of us now it's just a cool fad (not with me, i think it happens to be pretty pointless, and i don't enjoy talking about hurtnig myself, lmao) but it is way overused.
EDIT: gota love the bands that brought it.... just not the aftermath, lol. And My CHemical romance is a huge one, lol, Helena.
Message edited by author 2006-01-14 11:24:15.
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01/13/2006 11:20:46 PM · #33 |
ahhh emo...
First off. My Chemical Romance ISNT EMO.
Emo, at least here in philly, is a bunch of indy kids who cry, but are in no way suicidal. Suicidal is goth, and goth and emo are nothing alike, nor will they ever be. Technically, Emo is a form of music and nothing else, but these kids today have drug it out so far that they think its a lifestyle also.
When I think of Emo shots, Joey's photos definitely dont pop up. Hes more grunge punk maybe a little goth but not really. I guess if someone told me they wanted emo shots, id treat it like a band promo shoot and put them on train tracks and things of the like, against the wall with one foot up, etc.
PS. The Get Up Kids are the best band in the world thank you.
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01/13/2006 11:33:21 PM · #34 |
I'm with you jeremy - joe is /almost/ the opposite of emo.
Emo is more like (but not quite) Coleys angel who lose her wings series - only she is dressed clubgothy, and no emoish. But the idea is emoish. |
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01/13/2006 11:41:09 PM · #35 |
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Message edited by author 2006-01-20 23:55:22.
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01/13/2006 11:56:10 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
emo is sulky
The one thing myspace is good for is the perfect demonstration of emo
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I thought it was just a crappy internet version of a singles bar...
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01/13/2006 11:59:11 PM · #37 |
Nevermind
Message edited by author 2006-01-14 00:26:14. |
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01/14/2006 12:01:51 AM · #38 |
 (clothes are not "emo style" but the image/ and pose fits the mood)
 (not looking at the camera is common with "emo kids")
does that help any?> |
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01/14/2006 12:07:54 AM · #39 |
| I see Emo as the opposite end of the spectrum from punk. Punk after all was/is very angry and in your face, screaming/bouncing/raging. Emo is wistfull and sad, contemplative in a Byron just before death sort of romantic lasitude. I have a hard time seeing Rancid as emo. |
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01/14/2006 12:56:51 AM · #40 |
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Message edited by author 2006-01-20 23:57:27.
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01/14/2006 01:48:18 AM · #41 |
I'd be condemned to eternal firey torture if I knew, but have been trying to figure this out since it started popping up all around me about a year ago. And I'm only 23 so it's not like there should be a huge generation gap here or anything.
urban dictionary has some explanations, that go into rants about the style of photography which is why I mention it:
Originally posted by urban_dictionary:
They take hundreds of black and white pictures with way too much contrast of themselves looking plaintively down at the ground, pointing a gun made of their fingers at their heads, or kissing the camera while displaying their expert application of lip gloss around their labret piercing and the thick dark eyeliner that circles their eyes. |
The best I've come up with is what's already been mentioned; basically this generation's punk, only more whiney, less action-oriented, and only violent towards themselves. My favorite apropos joke: "I wish my grass were emo so that it would cut itself." I'm sure you could find four dozen blogs repeating it with a web search, no idea where it originated.
Message edited by author 2006-01-14 01:48:40. |
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01/14/2006 02:04:08 AM · #42 |
This thread has been fun to watch. Peoples different ideas about the meaning and all. On a musical note, I tend to think of My Chemical Romance....I mean have ya seen the Helena music video? The dude's dancing at a funeral practically bawling his eyes out.
Originally posted by blindjustice:
Bands that are fake or new poppy 14 year old punk without being emo are... Blink 182; sum 41; green day; simple plan; perhaps rancid has a bit more cred to escape this? |
...and on a seperate note, tho Green Day wouldn't classify as emo to me, they certainly aren't new poppy 14 year old punk. After all, they have been a band for 16+ years and have kids and stuff...jus sayin ;-)
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01/14/2006 02:11:29 AM · #43 |
| You guys are so silly EMO is the little red guy from the Muppets. |
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01/14/2006 03:16:03 AM · #44 |
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01/14/2006 04:50:09 AM · #45 |
I honestly don't think that anyone who hasn't been in high school within the past two or three years is qualified to make any accurate comments about emo as a subculture, because it's really too new to have spread further than high school. I suppose there's a good handful of middle school emo kids, and maybe a few early college emo kids, but most of it is kids who are like, 15-17 right now. People older than that are more likely to be goth or punk.
Grunge is something totally different.
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01/14/2006 06:31:07 AM · #46 |
Sorry EMO isn't new. It's been around for at least 10 years (I'm sure longer) think more along the lines of Placebo or early Weezer. It may just be getting more mainstream but not new. Also definitely not punk or goth.
Emo
//stevenneuman.tripod.com/emo.jpg
Goth
//www.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/other/_gothic_girlz_-1121326555_i_2016_full.jpg
*wink*
Message edited by author 2006-01-14 06:31:53. |
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01/14/2006 06:49:06 AM · #47 |
Some of the music might have been around for a while, but as far as the subculture and stereotypes go, I really don't see it much more outside of high school, not the way I see goth and punk and all. It's because it's getting more mainstream recently that you have all these 'emo kids' around, right?
Emo and goth are definitely completely different things...goth is a lot darker, more angry, and has a lot of occult themes, while emo is more heartbroken whining. They're both angsty, but the main difference lies in the source of the angst and how they deal with it.
Despite that, though, I tend to lump it all together sometimes and tag someone as emogothindie. Eh.
Oh, and by current standards I wouldn't call Placebo emo, either, but that's just my opinion.
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01/14/2006 07:02:39 AM · #48 |
| I agree about the differences. But EMO has been highly visable here for a long long time (the 10 years+) but that could be just where I live. By mainstream I mean recognized by "Big America", as a subculture and style I've seen it since the early 90's. |
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01/14/2006 10:45:25 AM · #49 |
The impression I get is that emo is sort of like punk lite, but with teen moodiness and melancholy substituted for anger and outrage. But it gets overused a lot and can mean so many different things that it almost means nothing. Maybe teens grasping for a label that says "I'm a tortured soul"? Anyway I'm guessing that noone above 25 is qualified to really understand/describe emo (so take everything I say with a liberal dose of salt!) and, unlike goth or punk, I don't think many people over 20 would self-identify as emo.
While it's not the same as goth or punk, the kids I know of who self-describe as emo seem to feel some affinity or association with the goth and punk subcultures. Though they might be wannabees who just aren't sure which of goth, punk or emo they wannabee.
In terms of the OP's job to do emo photos of a young lady, I'd suggest:
- She'll probably expect lighting to be fairly flat/broad, not spotlight-type lighting. Try shooting a few with moody shadows too, and some with quite harsh lighting. But typical studio portrait styles won't fly.
- Aim for interior location (not studio) shots mostly. You could try suggesting outdoor location shots like a graveyard or a grungy industrial look and see if she's interested, depending on whether she has goth, punk or grunge leanings.
- Posing and expressions will be sad or contemplative or wistful.
- Have the young lady choose her own emo outfits.
- For your output, aim darker than you would normally go, and normal or slightly high contrast. Untoned monochrome is probably the safest, you could try some mild blue "cyanotype" toning on a few and see how she reacts? But I'd steer clear of punchy saturated colours, particularly warm colours, unless the colours are obviously wrong for the context.
- If feasible, get her to play some of her music in the background, it might help set her mood (and give you a few more clues about what emo is... and then you can explain it to us!).
Message edited by author 2006-01-14 10:51:26. |
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01/14/2006 11:03:54 AM · #50 |
Maybe I feel qualified to comment on this because I'm from the city where Story of the Year originated. (And I saw them perform back in the day when they were called Big Blue Monkey.)
Punk, grunge, goth, hardcore, are all pretty standardized terms now, but emo still is being nailed down.
It involves wearing tight jeans, track jackets, sweaters, thick-frame glasses, and piercings and tattoos can't hurt either. I see it as sort of the middle ground between punk and goth, while some songs can be angry and violent, others are very sad and melancholy. To get a feel for it, see videos by Dashboard Confessional, or Thursday.
Personally, for anyone my age who understands what I'm talking about, when I think of emo I automatically identify with Screamo. I.E. hopesfall, thursday, fear before the march of flames, etc.
THE RULES OF EMO PICTURE-TAKING:
1.)They're generally taken elevated above or below the subject to the extreme.
2.)Unless one eye is covered by hair, they should not be looking at the camera.
3.)For girls, you have much more leeway to work with the emotional tone of the picture. It can range from flirtatious and coquettish, to just plain sad. For guys, if it isn't a shot of them performing on stage, they should be holding a guitar, even if they play bass or don't play at all.
4.) For girls, think Avril Lavigne eyeshadow.
5.) Pictures should have very bright colors, stripes, argyle patterns, dyed hair, or be in extreme contrast B&W. Think High-Key.
Above all, if you want an emo picture try to communicate a profound sense of melancholoy and artistic temperamant.
Actually, whoever said to think of Byron was right. That fits perfectly. Read 'Manfred'.
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Here's a quote from Wikipedia:
However, when pressed to explain "emo", many fans split the genre into two brands: the "hardcore emo" practiced in the early days and the newer "indie emo".
Hardcore emo would lean closer to goth, and the indie emo leans closer to any hip suburbanite you'd see walking in the nice part of downtown.
Message edited by author 2006-01-14 11:10:36. |
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