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01/03/2006 07:28:22 PM · #1 |
I'm not a Nikon owner but a friend on another site just bought the D200 and is experiencing banding. Apparently many other have are well. I just wanted to pass this on so current and future owners of the D200 will be aware of it.
You can read about it here and here.
I did a quick search and didn't find this posted anywhere.
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01/13/2006 05:17:11 PM · #2 |
& crapola
took some images at ISO800 today & thereis plenty of banding
very P.O.'d
ISO 100 looks ok but i don't live there all the time ..
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01/13/2006 05:25:19 PM · #3 |
I've been reading about it for weeks now and it looks like many cameras have a problem but most don't.
Still unacceptable.
My D200 hasn't arived yet and I pre-ordered in early November... I assume the delay is due to an internal recall.
I'll be happy about the wait if Nikon's doing the right thing, which I'd bet anything they are. Fast damage control before the problem spirals out of control for such a high profile release is the only way to go.
Message edited by author 2006-01-13 17:26:37. |
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01/13/2006 05:34:52 PM · #4 |
just went back and had a REALLY close look at what i've shot on it so far (1000 or so images) and there's no banding to found.
I'd be mighty crusty if I found otherwise... |
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01/13/2006 05:56:24 PM · #5 |
There are several factors that can cause banding, such as the computer display color resolution, low quality jpeg compression, poor exposure parameters (narrow histogram expansion), etc. All these factors should be considered before condemning the camera. Try automatic and default exposure modes, check your computer display settings, and shoot RAW format images. If the banding persists then I would suspect a problem with the camera's interpolation algorithm. |
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01/13/2006 05:57:22 PM · #6 |
Mine's from the first shipment. I've had it since 16DEC and haven't found any trace of banding at any ISO from 100 up through 3200. I'm not saying it's not there with some cameras, but I wonder how many cameras are really affected, or if maybe it's from a cause other than the camera itself...
Eric
Message edited by author 2006-01-13 18:01:17. |
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01/13/2006 06:01:58 PM · #7 |
I have not seen any banding in any photo (about 1500) in Nikon Capture or in PSCS2. However, in one instance I could see banding when I opened an image in NI. This was after opening and editing in Capture, exporting to PS, editing, saving as a resized TiFF, and then opening in Neat Image. This was, like I said, one instance.
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01/13/2006 06:04:29 PM · #8 |
What is is exactly...... the Lines in the picture ( or when you in large it) and do you know about any other style of Nikon doing it......it is east to notice from a negative....
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01/13/2006 06:14:00 PM · #9 |
Also bear in mind that banding can show up due to environmental factors. Earlier in the week someone posted (on another site) pics shot with a 5D with funky diagonal bands running at about 30 degrees from horizontal. They were taken atop a skyscraper in close proximity to a transmitting antenna, and were almost certainly due to RF interference. The 5D banding issue reported when using the 50/1.4 lens in AI Servo focus mode is also an electrical interference phenomenon, but manifests itself as horizontal bands. Some cams show it, others do not. Bottom line, these are sensitive electronic devices, and banding is often an artifact of stray, high-frequency electrical fields. Sources can be internal or external, and sensitivity to the interference can vary from unit to unit.
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01/13/2006 07:04:25 PM · #10 |
i'll do a 100% crop when i can .. (have to put my monsters to bed first)
2 seperate monitors
artifacts are seen in Nikon capture & Nikon Viewer
I only almost allways shoot in Raw - ones examined today were raw ..
though 'most' images i've shot up to now have been Iso100
but i when back & lookd at a single image i had at hand from last Sat
& it show it also (Iso 1600) though hard to spot & seemingly intense near the edges --
i did examine shadow(y) areas of Iso100 frames & see seeming aritfact
of soft straight lines
any sharpening at all (ANY) makes some of these pop right out & make them extreemly obvious -
most lines are visible with no sharpening ( shoot with no sharpening added)
poop poop & double poop ...
edit: i really wish i could spel
Message edited by author 2006-01-13 19:05:19. |
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01/13/2006 07:39:05 PM · #11 |
banding_iso1600_nosharpening
banding_iso1600_USM
banding_iso400_Normalsharpening
banding_iso400_USM
note the last one i left a bit of glasses fram in the image / thats hand shake at 1/10sec ..
sigh...
It's a nice toy otherwise ...
Message edited by author 2006-01-13 19:40:21. |
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01/14/2006 11:46:36 AM · #12 |
Update:
sending the camera back on Monday for repairs
- hopefully it won't take tooooooo long |
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01/14/2006 12:55:12 PM · #13 |
My 300D has banding.
And that's why I'm switching to the D200, to get better banding!
Seriously it didn't use to have banding but now suddenly it picked it up. I guess my cam really looks up to the D200, and it's really starting to bug me. |
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01/14/2006 02:01:35 PM · #14 |
The 20D also has occasional banding problems at high ISO, but the problem seems to be almost completely solved if you shoot RAW. The banding is worst when shooting in JPEG.
Perhaps check that out brfore sending the cam in. I almost never shoot in JPEG anyway.
see this forum post for details: //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=291946&highlight=banding
Message edited by author 2006-01-14 14:03:53.
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01/14/2006 03:51:39 PM · #15 |
with this camera i only shot in jpg the first day all else has been raw
from the noise/talk on dpreview this is a known problem & is a priority fix
this is not an usr problem but a hardware/firmware issue
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01/14/2006 04:45:48 PM · #16 |
Makes me proud I sold my Nikon lenses two years ago.
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