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01/09/2006 12:18:52 AM · #1 |
Drop your fear of candids this week and single-out a person in a crowd as your source of composition. Use minimal depth-of-field to your advantage to help isolate your subject, and as always, be creative.
what does minimal DOF mean and how do you use it to your advantage, thanks |
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01/09/2006 12:22:21 AM · #2 |
Have the subject in focus and nothing else. I was looking foward to this challenge.
Message edited by author 2006-01-09 00:22:35.
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01/09/2006 12:23:08 AM · #3 |
Sorry. Seems I started another thread just as this one was started. Mine can be killed please.
Rose
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01/09/2006 12:24:42 AM · #4 |
its ok rose, no worries!
thanks guys, how do u get everything else out of focus?, is it camera dependable, or do u just aim at the main point?
im sorta new to all this
so just wondering |
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01/09/2006 12:26:09 AM · #5 |
A few lens can do this easily. It can be done in the editing phase in the Advanced editing challenge. And to think I was considering not renewing my membership and this challenge pops up. Now I have 6 days to figure out what I wish to do.
Message edited by author 2006-01-09 00:26:33.
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01/09/2006 12:26:28 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Elmakias:
its ok rose, no worries!
thanks guys, how do u get everything else out of focus?, is it camera dependable, or do u just aim at the main point?
im sorta new to all this
so just wondering |
Yeah, I'm not the best at this kind of thing either. I would think you have to get pretty close? Not sure. I would be interested in knowing a few of these answers myself.
Rose
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01/09/2006 12:28:22 AM · #7 |
Oh, that's right. Advanced editing. That is easy enough. I don't have any lenses to use yet, and have trouble with that kind of thing. Hate to use PP for it, but gotta do what you can.
Rose
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01/09/2006 12:28:52 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by rex:
A few lens can do this easily. It can be done in the editing phase in the Advanced editing challenge. And to think I was considering not renewing my membership and this challenge pops up. Now I have 6 days to figure out what I wish to do. |
If you submit a shot before your membership runs out, will it stay in to be voted on?
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01/09/2006 12:29:20 AM · #9 |
To answer the original question, long lens + wide aperture = shallow DOF; that's the classic approach.
R. |
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01/09/2006 12:30:24 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by modgethanc:
If you submit a shot before your membership runs out, will it stay in to be voted on? |
I asked that a few days ago and it never got answered.
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01/09/2006 12:31:03 AM · #11 |
For answers to DOF questions, you can start with this tutorial.
Hope it helps!
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01/09/2006 12:32:27 AM · #12 |
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01/09/2006 12:33:12 AM · #13 |
They probably just want you to renew, that's why :D
This challenge would be incredibly fun for me if I can get out of the house and go somewhere interesting in the next week. I wish I had a digital camera that has any zoom whatsoever...oh well, I'll make do :D
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01/09/2006 02:22:46 AM · #14 |
| So people only, right? It said single somebody out in a crowd, or am I being too literal? |
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01/09/2006 02:28:00 AM · #15 |
It does sound like it means just people. But you could probably use some inanimate objects and get away with it if it showed emotion or something.
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01/09/2006 03:01:24 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by rex:
Originally posted by modgethanc:
If you submit a shot before your membership runs out, will it stay in to be voted on? |
I asked that a few days ago and it never got answered. |
I saw a thread on this the other day, where it WAS answered; if your picture is submitted while you are a member, it will remain valid if your membership expires during the submission/voting stage. Only thing is, if you submit it and then try to swap it for another one after your membership expires, that won't happen.
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01/09/2006 03:03:24 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by MadMan2k:
It does sound like it means just people. But you could probably use some inanimate objects and get away with it if it showed emotion or something. |
I don't see how that's responisve to the challenge: "Drop your fear of candids this week and single-out a person in a crowd..."
"Candids", "person in a crowd"; how much more specific can it get?
R. |
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01/09/2006 04:13:08 AM · #18 |
The main two things I came away from the challenge description with are; 1) anyone not shooting people are probably still working on the 'drop you fear of candids' part and 2) the minimal DOF is vital to keep this different from the regular Candid series of challenges (I and II).
It should be a particularly interesting challenge since it is wide open in theme but strictly limited in execution.
David
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01/09/2006 04:32:16 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Elmakias:
Drop your fear of candids this week and single-out a person in a crowd as your source of composition. Use minimal depth-of-field to your advantage to help isolate your subject, and as always, be creative.
what does minimal DOF mean and how do you use it to your advantage, thanks |
The DOF (Depth of field) is the distance in front of and behind the spot focused on that is still 'in focus'. A narrow DOF will have a small area in focus, while a large DOF will have a larger area in focus. I read 'minimal DOF' to mean having the subject in focus and everything around them not in focus. Here is the only example from a quick look thru the two Candid challenges.
The DOF is controlled by the aperture, the larger the aperture (smaller number) the smaller the DOF. It is also affected by the length of the lens; a longer lens (greater zoom) creates a smaller DOF. Using the two together (as Robert mentioned), long lens and large aperture, creates an even smaller DOF.
A word of caution however. While the effect of a shallow DOF can be approximated in post-processing by bluring everything but the subject, bluring to the point of obscuring 'major elements' could result in a DQ.
David
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01/09/2006 06:07:08 AM · #20 |
| Whatever happens this one is going to be fun I did a few candids a week or so ago and got talking to alot of interesting people because of it. |
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01/09/2006 06:27:00 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by David.C:
The main two things I came away from the challenge description with are; 1) anyone not shooting people are probably still working on the 'drop you fear of candids' part and 2) the minimal DOF is vital to keep this different from the regular Candid series of challenges (I and II).
It should be a particularly interesting challenge since it is wide open in theme but strictly limited in execution.
David |
I agree with you on that one... I'm not very comfortable shooting candids, though I do like the results. I'm looking forward to taking shots in a crowd of people and seeing how narrow a dof my camera can take. I hope I wont have to use photoshop for my DOF. |
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01/09/2006 08:06:00 AM · #22 |
| Unfortunately as much as I would like to enter this, with all the idiots in this town it will not be possible. I have been approached every time I am in town with my camera even when I am not taking pics that have people in them. I can't see getting a pic of any decent quality without getting harrassed. |
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01/09/2006 08:15:26 AM · #23 |
| Are model releases necessary? If so, for the person in focus or the whole crowd? |
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01/09/2006 08:49:16 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by MadMan2k:
It does sound like it means just people. But you could probably use some inanimate objects and get away with it if it showed emotion or something. |
I don't see how that's responisve to the challenge: "Drop your fear of candids this week and single-out a person in a crowd..."
"Candids", "person in a crowd"; how much more specific can it get?
R. |
*teehee*, my problem is "crowds". There are NO crowds in a small town. LOL...Guess I am off to find some football game bleachers. LOL....Sometimes there are games in town for the little ones, but not sure when. My son entered little league, but not till next month. So the challenge for me is not taking the picture, but finding a crowd! LOL....
Rose
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01/09/2006 08:51:11 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by chaimelle:
Are model releases necessary? If so, for the person in focus or the whole crowd? |
I asked this of a pro photograher once when uploading images to a portfolio. I had taken a candid, and my husband said I shouldn't use it without permission. I asked my pro photographer buddy, and he said no, Model releases are not needed for something like this.
Rose
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