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01/07/2006 08:11:37 PM · #51 |
6.03 + 1.03 = 7.06
6.03 - 1.03 = 5
so the range is from 5 to 7.06 leaving 5 and 6 and 7 as possible votes...your assumption is incorrect. |
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01/07/2006 08:43:35 PM · #52 |
I scored the photo a 5. For votes I give, that's decent. I give few photos above 5 or 6 - only the best.
I appreciated that the shot was photojournalistic - I feel like that's something that is frequently missing here (but understandable because its hard to fit long-term journalistic stories into this weekly topic format).
I don't remember who said it, but some famous photographer said that if you're wondering why your photo isn't better it's because you aren't close enough. That was my reaction to your photo. The blood rolling down the guy's face was very graphic and should have been more of a focus of the shot. I take a lot of photos of demonstrations, rallies, civil disobedience, etc. and whenever police are brutalizing people, I always get as close as I can so that I can get good shots of what's going on.
I would have gotten right up close in the guy on the ground's face, with the two cops standing over him. Maybe take a few quick shots before the cops get mad at me and ask me to move back.
If you don't mind me asking - what were you doing there taking photos? Just for your personal use? For a paper? It sounds like you did a little follow-up on the story. |
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01/07/2006 08:54:55 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by alittlefishy:
If you don't mind me asking - what were you doing there taking photos? Just for your personal use? For a paper? It sounds like you did a little follow-up on the story. |
It was getting close to midnight and I was on my way from my gallery walking to a club to photograph a band. Half a block from the gallery I saw a police officer pushing an unconscious, handcuffed man with his foot in what looked like an effort to determine if the man was alive. I had the camera with me already set at 1600 and instinct kicked in.
Message edited by author 2006-01-07 21:07:50.
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01/07/2006 10:22:19 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
...albeit they in all likely have never experienced any situation that is remotely close to that depicted here.
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In in this small part you would be wrong. These police block off sections of the road in the downtown district every Thursday, Friday and Saturday night for the bars and clubs. For the most part they seem over tolerant most of the time towards drunken infractions, and send most people on their way (to drive home drunk). But if anyone gets in a serious fight they go to jail. If they resist, challenge, curse or assault an officer they are often treated very roughly. It's just the way things are in downtown Mobile. |
In this instance I was not referring to the police officers, but rather to administrative type people who have..."never experienced any situation that is remotely close to that depicted here..." but are quite prepared to pass judgement.
In essence what I was trying to say is that on occasion people are quite prepared to pass judgement on the actions of the police, notwitstanding the fact that they personally have never had to dealt with this type of experience.
Ray
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01/08/2006 04:33:05 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
I had the camera with me already set at 1600 and instinct kicked in. |
Good instincts, in my opinion.
As a former newspaper reporter, I think you did a great job. I agree with a previous poster that a tighter shot of the victim's face may have been better, but then it wouldn't have been appropriate for a journalism-style shot, either.
As for the lack of emotion on the officer's faces: disturbing they care so little? Sure. But remember, we are only seeing a split second of this incident. And as also pointed out, they will have their own questions to answer about this man's condition, I'm sure. |
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01/08/2006 04:49:29 PM · #56 |
See and noone believes MPD can be brutal ;-)
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01/08/2006 11:07:19 PM · #57 |
I gave the image a 6. But first, I cringed and made myself separate the title from the image. It didn't feel like an Oops - it seemed beyond an oops. The title caused me some grief. I could have handled it better in quotes and a source, or with a title that better acknowledged the brutality that had occurred somehow (fight, accident, or intentional.)
Message edited by author 2006-01-08 23:08:52. |
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