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01/05/2006 07:41:35 PM · #51 |
i agree with you, i also cried a lot after my landscape-ii, i scored around 3.8 finally. But then life goes on, and i decided that if i can't win the least i can do is enjoy whatever i am doing. Humor is best way to go, at least it makes me happy.
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by hannafate:
[rant mode]...Comments on the quality of the photo would be helpful. Not comments on my interpretation of the challenge.
rrr.[/rant mode] |
Out of the box interpretations of the challenge theme, like yours (bear in mind I can see which photo is yours) will inevitably draw some number of DNMC comments. It's the way it is. When you have 300+ different folks voting, you will have 300 different opinions of what meets the challenge, some very narrow, some very broad and many in between.
Take it as an indicator, if you get a LOT of these, that you MIGHT have done a better job of linking to the challenge theme. I've been guilty of this in the past, and have always had a forehead-slapping "DOH!" moment as a result.
Don't obsess about comments, take them for what they are worth, and try to disconnect your emotional attachment to your shot and really hear what the commentors are saying. You really do learn more from mistakes than from successes. |
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01/05/2006 07:45:01 PM · #52 |
Bhargava saheb akele akele khaa rahe hai aap. Mujhe bhi bhookh lagi hai thodi ;-)
Originally posted by Nitin:
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01/05/2006 09:32:19 PM · #53 |
*gets off the couch*
OK, now I'm done voting on City Life ... I have one thing to say. I tended to sway more towards life than city. In that, those that showed life didn't have to ride as much on technicals to get my high votes. I did give some high votes to some city-scapes, but that had to be of the best technical quality. Those that told me a story got by with less technical scrutiny. Those that told me a story, in the city, and had good technicals got 10's.
"sits back down with a fresh bucket of popcorn*
Message edited by author 2006-01-05 21:38:32.
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01/05/2006 10:28:53 PM · #54 |
| hannafate I can understand your frustration and can also agree that people don't usually take the time to view and take in the picture. They breeze by at a quick glance and thats that. They very rarely take the time to actually look inside and get a feeling for the photo. I do believe you went about it the wrong way tho which can happen to us all. After the challenge is over simply PM the person who left you a comment you didn't like/understand and perhaps discuss it with them to try to get a better understanding from where they are coming from. I know there a female from Cali. that will be getting one from me as I found from her comment she just skims thru and glaces at the photo without really seeing it. |
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01/05/2006 10:45:32 PM · #55 |
| I think I got the same comment from the Cali gal... |
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01/06/2006 01:04:00 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by kdsprog:
I think I got the same comment from the Cali gal... |
To much in a rush to actually look. Gotta love it. :S |
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01/06/2006 01:26:05 AM · #57 |
I'm not saying people should breeze by photos, but this is the nature of all Art.
A college proffesor once told me the average amount of time the average person spends looking at art in a museum is around 5 seconds.
In film school I was taught the most important part of the film is the first 3 minutes.
You have to grab your audience. If you don't they won't stay.
There are over a hundred photos in each challenge (sometimes hundreds) and many people don't have time to spend looking at each photo for 10 minutes considering all the aspects and pondering about the possible hidden meaning in each shot. It would be nice if they could and would but I don't think realistically it's going to happen.
That's why I think many of the more obvious pictures do better. "Meets the challenge - check, technically proficient - check". That's what you're gonna get out of most people. That's also why I believe colorful shots do much better on DPC, it grabs the viewers attention right away.
If you'd like people to really ponder your work and see the hidden meaning you'd be MUCH better off posting it in the forums and asking for C&C. The contests are a "factory" and you're gonna get "canned" results every time. |
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01/06/2006 01:42:43 AM · #58 |
Originally posted by Megatherian:
A college proffesor once told me the average amount of time the average person spends looking at art in a museum is around 5 seconds.
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Humm
It reminds me of my old days, i used to go to a museum every weekend. And i used to chose a painting a day and try to imagine that i am painting it. This excersize would take around an hour or so, and sometimes more. The museum had paintings of masters, and most of my learning happened there.
But it is correct, normal people do not spend much time with art, for most of then it is WOW and Non-WOW thing.
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01/06/2006 02:07:08 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by zxaar:
Originally posted by Megatherian:
A college proffesor once told me the average amount of time the average person spends looking at art in a museum is around 5 seconds.
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Humm
It reminds me of my old days, i used to go to a museum every weekend. And i used to chose a painting a day and try to imagine that i am painting it. This excersize would take around an hour or so, and sometimes more. The museum had paintings of masters, and most of my learning happened there.
But it is correct, normal people do not spend much time with art, for most of then it is WOW and Non-WOW thing. |
Yes, the number I heard was all of 7 seconds. And this is for the good art that has stood the test of time.
What a great exercise: to imagine creating *that* particular piece of art. How to compose it, how to select the colors, the lights, the darks, how to execute the technical aspects. (okay, I'll do the rest of my dreaming on this subject on my own time.)
But this brings us back to photography in a big way. How to keep the viewer in the image long enough to take a good look and therefore make a considered judgement. Some, including me, describe this as the Wow factor. But there are tricks to this, and it would probably take a semester of study (and a lot more) to understand the compositional tricks that keep a viewer interested. Assuming, of course, that the subject is compelling in the first place.
Because, sometimes the voter does stop, looks with appreciation, and votes high.
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01/06/2006 02:25:04 AM · #60 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Humm
Some, including me, describe this as the Wow factor. But there are tricks to this, and it would probably take a semester of study (and a lot more) to understand the compositional tricks that keep a viewer interested. |
There is really a trick to it. And it took me 10 years of hard work to understand all this. To understand just what a viewer want to see. I can implement lot of it to photos also and i can make out why the image was a ribbon winner. Its just that i do not have equipment to do lot of work what a 'photographer' wants to see.
As far as painting is concerned i do have big ego and i do paint better than almost all the painters i know (leaving some great masters, for example i could never understood how Turner paints).
To get an idea what a viewer wants to see, you can spend some time with paintings of Sir Lawrence Alma Tadema, then just list the things your heart says (not mind), and ask your self why do i like it. Knowing what someone like is easy, but creating an art form that someone will like is all matter of experience and hardwork.
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01/06/2006 02:27:55 AM · #61 |
Originally posted by shamrock69:
Originally posted by Nitin:
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Care to share, Nitin? ;P |
Join in.. bring a DVD
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01/06/2006 08:07:05 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by Megatherian:
A college proffesor once told me the average amount of time the average person spends looking at art in a museum is around 5 seconds. |
When I was last in Paris, I walked right past The Louvre but I think it took a little more like 9 seconds. |
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01/11/2006 12:59:57 AM · #63 |
| now that the contest is over, i can see why your shot did poorly. to most people it doesn't meet the challenge. it might to you, but it's a tough sell. |
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