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01/05/2006 05:22:03 AM · #1
Quite amazing.

//hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/2004/07/image/a

where there is also a link to the 6200x6200 images.

"The image required 800 exposures taken over the course of 400 Hubble orbits around Earth. The total amount of exposure time was 11.3 days, taken between Sept. 24, 2003 and Jan. 16, 2004."

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01/05/2006 05:26:35 AM · #2
That is AWESOME!
01/05/2006 05:52:49 AM · #3
typical DPC comment: out of focus! here's a 1 you little slug! :p
01/05/2006 06:01:07 AM · #4
It's truly amazing when you look at pictures like this! I wonder if anything is out there looking back? It'd be stupid if we had all this space to ourselves!
01/05/2006 06:55:24 AM · #5
Originally posted by Makka:

It's truly amazing when you look at pictures like this! I wonder if anything is out there looking back? It'd be stupid if we had all this space to ourselves!
And that image shows an area of space 1/10 the diameter of the moon. The whole sky looks like that... plus the whole sky on the other side of the planet! The universe is huge far beyond comprehension.
01/05/2006 07:50:11 AM · #6
will that lense fit my XT or will I have to go for an upgrade???
01/05/2006 07:57:42 AM · #7
Wow. That's amazing. And to think that even after we manage to explore our own galaxy, there is still all those others out there that we may never get to see. I suddenly feel sorta' tiny. :D
01/05/2006 08:05:03 AM · #8
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:

Wow. That's amazing. And to think that even after we manage to explore our own galaxy, there is still all those others out there that we may never get to see. I suddenly feel sorta' tiny. :D


Interstellar travel, let alone intergalactic travel, is sadly a v long way away...

//www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/research/warp/warp.html
01/05/2006 08:44:57 AM · #9
Originally posted by legalbeagle:

"The image required 800 exposures taken over the course of 400 Hubble orbits around Earth. The total amount of exposure time was 11.3 days, taken between Sept. 24, 2003 and Jan. 16, 2004."


From the rules:
"Your entry must come from a single photograph, taken during the specified challenge timeframe. ;-)
01/05/2006 08:50:38 AM · #10
Wow, very impressive! A lot of noise on that full-size image though. They must be using a Nikon in that 'scope. :-)
01/05/2006 09:04:41 AM · #11
Hum... I love space shots, but somehow, This one makes me want to get out my lint brush.
01/05/2006 09:27:50 AM · #12
This certainly isn't the most attractive Hubble photo, but it may be the most profound. The dozens of objects recognizable as galaxies are unimaginably far away. The thousands of tiny specks that make it look like someone needs to clean the Hubble's sensor are also galaxies, each containing billions of stars, even further away. Only a handful of foreground stars (the ones with spikes) are anywhere in our neighborhood. Mind boggling!
01/05/2006 09:32:21 AM · #13
Lots of white spots on the nice black background - no real subject - not using rules of thirds - 5 :-)))

Amazing implications of a picture like this - and it's just a very small portion of the sky WE can see, it would be the same at any of those light points.
01/05/2006 09:32:22 AM · #14
Is it just me, or does anyone else here think that the idea of all this vastness and mass coming from a dot (aka, Big Bang) totally unbelievable, and frankly full of crap?

Yeah, that question should stir the pot :-)

-Chad
01/05/2006 09:42:15 AM · #15
People who study astrophysics believe it... they're more likely to know what they're talking about than someone who has an unfounded opinion.
01/05/2006 11:23:13 AM · #16
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

People who study astrophysics believe it... they're more likely to know what they're talking about than someone who has an unfounded opinion.


So some people tell you that all the mass in the universe was once contained in the space of a dot, and you accept it just because people more educated than you tell you its true. What do YOU think?

And who says my opinion is unfounded?

I'm not trying to start an argument - just spark some free-thinking.

-Chad

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01/05/2006 11:29:08 AM · #17
Originally posted by cpurser:

...you accept it just because people more educated than you tell you its true.


The same could be said of religion, except that we can actually test models in physics to see if they agree with observations.
01/05/2006 11:32:23 AM · #18
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by cpurser:

...you accept it just because people more educated than you tell you its true.


The same could be said of religion, except that we can actually test models in physics to see if they agree with observations.


Hey, let's not get religion into this.

Big Bang very well could be true, but to me, common sense-wise, I just don't believe it. And the educated ones have to dream up of all kinds of off-the-wall stuff to make it work. Dark matter, dark energy, inflation, etc.

-Chad
01/05/2006 11:33:42 AM · #19
Originally posted by cpurser:

Is it just me, or does anyone else here think that the idea of all this vastness and mass coming from a dot (aka, Big Bang) totally unbelievable, and frankly full of crap?

Yeah, that question should stir the pot :-)

-Chad

That theory is based on observations taken from this one little spot we call home -- there is a lot (talking huge here) room for error when trying to triangulate a position when all three readins come from essentially the same place. It is based on guesswork and theories from unreliable observations -- but it is easy to believe, perhaps because it mirrors so closely mainstream religious beliefs. *shrug* We are a long way from the point that it really matters. When we get closer we will be better able to say.

David
01/05/2006 11:35:50 AM · #20
I believe it. It may not be totally accurate, but I'll take science over...the alternative...any day. There's some facinating theories out there, and sure, they're just theories that happen to fit what little we know, but that doesn't mean that at least one of them isn't right. Read some of Hawking's work, it's absolutly amazing.
01/05/2006 11:40:22 AM · #21
Standard disclaimer: I believe in the validity of the big bang. I also believe what lies behind the Big Bang, is God.

I think what cpurser may be alluding to is that it's beyond our comprehension or anything even remotely in our experience to think that that amount of mass could be squeezed into a point smaller than we could see. Come on, valid or not, that'd be kooky talk in our everyday lives...
01/05/2006 11:49:53 AM · #22
I took astrophysics as an elective (late 80's) in university from a professor who had a thick German accent. My most vivid memory of the course was him telling me, "Purrrhaps you'd bettah drrrop zee courz." After I told him I'd be absent for the first two weeks because I'd be in Europe for a geology course.



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01/05/2006 11:50:15 AM · #23
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Standard disclaimer: I believe in the validity of the big bang. I also believe what lies behind the Big Bang, is God.

I think what cpurser may be alluding to is that it's beyond our comprehension or anything even remotely in our experience to think that that amount of mass could be squeezed into a point smaller than we could see. Come on, valid or not, that'd be kooky talk in our everyday lives...


Thanks Doc, for rephrasing it. That is what I was getting at.

Oh, to scalvert, physics don't agree with Big Bang... that's why there is dark matter, dark energy, inflation, etc, to try to force it to work. Even though, no matter how hard they try, can't see or detect dark matter or energy.

-Chad


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01/05/2006 11:50:54 AM · #24
Originally posted by cpurser:

common sense-wise, I just don't believe it.


What does common sense have to do with the study of physics or cosmology? We KNOW that black holes exist- we can measure their mass and diameter with a fair degree of accuracy. We can observe the intense radiation and orbital velocities around them, yet we're talking about a ridiculous amount of matter compressed to a single point. Whether or not we understand them, they still exist. Ditto neutron stars, gamma rays bursts and the rings around Saturn. "Common sense" said that living creatures shouldn't exist in boiling, corrosive water around deep sea volcanoes, that the earth was flat, that people would never walk on the moon, that heavy airplanes couldn't fly, and that the sound barrier couldn't be broken. Obviously, common sense doesn't determine what's actually possible.
01/05/2006 12:04:40 PM · #25
Originally posted by cpurser:

physics don't agree with Big Bang...


Physics doesn't seem to have a problem with black holes (also a singularity). Our understanding of physics may not be complete (or completely accurate), but that doesn't mean the origin of the universe doesn't follow physical laws. If anything, common sense says it SHOULD.

Originally posted by cpurser:

that's why there is dark matter, dark energy, inflation, etc, to try to force it to work. Even though, no matter how hard they try, can't see or detect dark matter or energy.


You make it sound like these things are fictional constructs "invented" to make an equation fit. Inflation is an observation- we CAN see that galaxies moved away from a central point rapidly, then slower. Dark matter is simply the stuff we can't see because it's not illuminated (if we could see dark matter, it wouldn't be dark). YOU would be dark matter if chilled to absolute zero and located away from any stars. Again, we know there is stuff that isn't illuminated (duh), we just don't know how much because it's hard to measure what you can't see.

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