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12/18/2005 08:32:25 PM · #1
Very very clean, with caps, box, wrappings, papers, and hood, everything that was supplied when new.
In perfect working condition
No marks on front/rear lens element.
Getting rid of all lenses for cropped sensors.

I'm in the Los Angeles Area, please e-mail me to test and pick up the lens.
I'm not interested in Paypal and shipping, so local pick up only.
$400 or best offer? Will also consider trade for a similar condition Canon 15mm fisheye.

Message edited by author 2005-12-18 20:33:07.
12/19/2005 09:33:18 PM · #2
So far one interested party.
e-mail me for pics of the lens.
12/19/2005 09:48:38 PM · #3
OK, just posted the pics of the lens on my webpage. Took some quick one handed shots holding the lens and my camera inside.
You can click on the image for 100% crop shots of the lens.

//yido.smugmug.com/gallery/1054152
12/20/2005 12:10:49 PM · #4
I've been away for a while, but I still remember the plight of the incompatibility of that lens with your 1D setup.

Makes me sad that the lens didn't work out for ya. That's a real bummer for you.

Tokina should have done something about that. Hope you get good dollar for that wicked lens.

Any shots taken with it that can show how it compares in straightness to the acclaimed 10-22?

What lens did you end up getting in the end for wide angle with your 1d?

Hope you found something good.

Message edited by author 2005-12-20 12:12:28.
12/20/2005 12:12:22 PM · #5
is your 350D really your primary over the 1DIIn?
12/20/2005 12:23:09 PM · #6
Originally posted by eschelar:

I've been away for a while, but I still remember the plight of the incompatibility of that lens with your 1D setup.

Makes me sad that the lens didn't work out for ya. That's a real bummer for you.

Tokina should have done something about that. Hope you get good dollar for that wicked lens.

Any shots taken with it that can show how it compares in straightness to the acclaimed 10-22?

What lens did you end up getting in the end for wide angle with your 1d?

Hope you found something good.


Tokina can't fix his issue - he went to a non-APS sized sensor cam so NO Di/Dx lens can be used - the image circle is smaller than the sensor. The Canon 10-22 is an EF-S lens - it only works on the 300d, 350xt and 20d cameras, no others.
12/20/2005 12:24:53 PM · #7
Originally posted by yido:

So far one interested party.
e-mail me for pics of the lens.


I'm interested in that lens, but living 3000 miles away makes picking it impossible at this time. ;) Being low on camera funds at this time makes it impossible too.

See me in february maybe...
12/20/2005 12:37:04 PM · #8
It's a fun lens, I personally enjoy doing the somewhat skewed perspective shots. (Like photographing 6ft tall individuals from 2ft away, and getting all of them. Or making them look like dwarfs. At the same time it's great for architecture.)


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12/20/2005 01:27:01 PM · #9
Hmmm,
lot of comments on a for sale post. I'll answer all the questions.

The toke has a EF mount, the only problem is that the rear element is a smaller size for cropped sensor, so on a 1D MIIN, it vingettes till about 18mm. I already have a Tamron 17-35. This is the only lens that I can't use on both the XT and the N. I plan on getting the new Sigma 15mm EX DG fisheye for really wide shots.

No, I consider the N, as my main and the XT as a backup, but I can also put down whatever lens/camera as my primary one on the profile. It's just for fun, I mix it up once in a while. I've shot both of the cameras in RAW under same settings with the same lens in RAW and noticed that with RSP, I can get a bit more dynamic image with the N, but not a hugh difference. When I shoot a lot of wideangle stuff, the XT due to the Tokina becomes my primary, that's why I want a fisheye so that when I have wideangle stuff, the N with the fisheye can become my main lens.

I also posted on FM and there are a few that are interested as well.
12/22/2005 02:14:28 PM · #10
bump
12/22/2005 03:03:11 PM · #11
Perhaps, if you are looking for a wide-angle lens for use on your 1D, you could consider the Sigma 12-24. Wider, obviously, than the 1mm fisheye and, again rather obviously, not fisheye. It's a full-frame lens, although I found it almost too wide for my tastes. A quick example for info:


12/22/2005 03:28:31 PM · #12
If you decide to do an online sale with PP, I'll be 1st in line - 3000 miles is a long ways to go tho.
12/22/2005 08:41:29 PM · #13
Originally posted by AJAger:

Perhaps, if you are looking for a wide-angle lens for use on your 1D, you could consider the Sigma 12-24. Wider, obviously, than the 1mm fisheye and, again rather obviously, not fisheye. It's a full-frame lens, although I found it almost too wide for my tastes. A quick example for info:



Yeah, I thought about the Sigma 12-24 but seeing as I have a 17-35 for wides, I'd prefer the 15mm fisheye to get really wide and to get that funky fisheye effect.
12/24/2005 02:47:34 AM · #14
SOLD
12/25/2005 01:55:24 PM · #15
Glad you found a solution that fits your needs and makes you happy yido.

I was watching your wide angle situation to see where it would take you.

I was wondering if you were going to check out the Sigma 10-22 to see if it had the same vignetting issues and if it actually would clamp on to that 1d of yours. I also was hoping I might benefit from your experience and find some nice lens comparisons between the different popular wides based on your experiences with the 350.

I will likely be buying a 20D in a few months, so 1.6 is going to be my crop factor for some time, but I'm actually quite a fan of the idea of a 1.3 and I feel I would be quite happy with a 'tweener' camera that didn't have the full sized body of the 1d, but had a body more similar to the 20d or 5D and had nice big pixels like the 1D and 5D. If something like that comes out in the next few months, I will save up for it and skip the 20D.
12/25/2005 02:33:58 PM · #16
Earl,
Thank you for your comments.

Canon usually releases news about upcoming models in Feb. and August for sale two months later. It is rumored that since the 20D is over a year old, that it's replacement will be announced in two months. Hence, you may want to hold off from getting the 20D and go for a 30D. I doubt that they'd increase the sensor size, but you may want to wait and see.

Another option, unless you are a Cannon loyalist, is to get a Nikon D200. I've held it a bit when a fellow photog got it, and it's one sexy machine. I actually find the Nikons a better feeling than Canons and if I was starting out fresh right now knowing what I know, would get the D200. But if you like larger sensors and larger photodiodes, then this would be contrary to your tastes.

All the ultrawide zooms except the Sigma 12-24 are for APS-C sized sensors, so they will all vingette till they are zoomed in about 6mm in from their widest. Like I said, I have a 17-35 zoom, so doing so I have no need to use these zooms on my II N. I think UK's Digital Photography recently reviewed all the ultrawides and thought the Canon was optically the best, with the rest made for cropped sensor tied optically, and the Sigma 12-24 being the softest. So if I was getting an ultrawide zoom for cropped sensors, I'd either get a Canon, if I wanted best optics and could afford the cost, a Tokina for cost and tough build, or a Sigma for the 10mm end and the lowest price.

I agree with you on the crop factor. I think the 1.3x is the most ideal. It allows for a larger sensor with larger photodiodes to reduce the noise, atleast theorethically, eliminates the soft edges to optimize the sweet spot, and offers a larger viewfinder. I find the view finder of the 1.3x cropped sensor big enough, so I don't miss the FF sensor.
12/25/2005 09:00:07 PM · #17
That's the plan yido. Wait until then. If they don't switch to a larger sensor, I will immediately start looking for a second hand 20d which I will assume will drop significantly in price.

I do like larger photodiodes, but I am happy with either 1.6 or 1.3X. I also did a price comparison for the lenses I am interested in and there's a rather dramatic difference in price from the Nikon "kit" to the Canon "kit". In actual fact, I had been considering the Konica as my second choice. I actually like the idea of an 18-70, but again, total cost for the lenses...

It makes sense that the superwides are exclusive to APS C. It is too bad that the 1.3x factor gets left out of the shuffle. With the specially designed lenses, it looks like you can actually shoot wider with the 350 with a 1.6 crop than a 1.3x crop. While that seems counterproductive (the camera with a telephoto oriented crop being able to shoot wider), I'll bet you could still set up 2 cameras to shoot with for a wedding or other type of photoshoot and (barring equipment failure) be pretty much fine. Especially if you do end up picking up a 15mm Fisheye in the end.

Good to hear what you have to say about these lenses. At least one small consolation from your having to mess around with figuring these things out after the purchase is that other guys like me can learn from your troubles.
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