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11/27/2005 06:42:34 PM · #26 |
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11/27/2005 06:52:21 PM · #27 |
OOOO MMMMM GGGGG! FOURTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS??? Well, then, I guess that will be in my next life. LOL....
Rose
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11/27/2005 06:54:01 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Rose8699:
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Rose8699:
HHmmmmm, is there much difference between this canon (Canon 100-400L IS) and the 300D? OR is this 100-400 just a lens for it? (sorry, I'm a bit green). I am thinking of the 300D for myself actually. If there isn't much difference, I think the 300D is probably the one for me.
Rose |
The 100-400 is a lens that can be mounted on the 300D (0r any other Canon Digital SLR). It provides much more telephoto "reach" than the lens commonly sold with the 300D, but it does ont do wide angle (it's purely a telephoto zoom).
If you do decide to move to DSLR, you need to assume tht ventually you will spend much more on lenses than you do on the body. Good glass is necessary to get the most out of today's DSLRs. BTW, I'd strongly recommend the 350D (Rebel XT) over the 300D. |
And what is the cost of this lens? Also, the lens that comes with the 300 OR even the 350D, what is the zoom length, let's say in footage? I have a window to my backyard and about 50 feet or so in is forest with a LOT of wildlife. Cardnals, Blue Jays, Wood Peckers, Squirrels, snakes, etc. I am having a BIT of trouble getting any good shots with my lousy 6x zoom on my fuji 3800 point and shoot; hence wanting to upgrade. Does the zoom that comes "with" these cameras - will they be of any help?
Rose |
The zoom that comes as the kit lens for most SLRs will be less than adequate for the shots you mention. You'd need to get an additional lens. The kit lens is for wide angle shots. |
Surely something like a 15x zoom would work? I mean, with the 6x I am "almost" there. A couple more feet and I would be elated, so the zoom lens that comes with the 300 or 350D isn't good enough to give me a few more feet?
Rose
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11/27/2005 06:55:59 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by Rose8699:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Rose8699:
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Rose8699:
HHmmmmm, is there much difference between this canon (Canon 100-400L IS) and the 300D? OR is this 100-400 just a lens for it? (sorry, I'm a bit green). I am thinking of the 300D for myself actually. If there isn't much difference, I think the 300D is probably the one for me.
Rose |
The 100-400 is a lens that can be mounted on the 300D (0r any other Canon Digital SLR). It provides much more telephoto "reach" than the lens commonly sold with the 300D, but it does ont do wide angle (it's purely a telephoto zoom).
If you do decide to move to DSLR, you need to assume tht ventually you will spend much more on lenses than you do on the body. Good glass is necessary to get the most out of today's DSLRs. BTW, I'd strongly recommend the 350D (Rebel XT) over the 300D. |
And what is the cost of this lens? Also, the lens that comes with the 300 OR even the 350D, what is the zoom length, let's say in footage? I have a window to my backyard and about 50 feet or so in is forest with a LOT of wildlife. Cardnals, Blue Jays, Wood Peckers, Squirrels, snakes, etc. I am having a BIT of trouble getting any good shots with my lousy 6x zoom on my fuji 3800 point and shoot; hence wanting to upgrade. Does the zoom that comes "with" these cameras - will they be of any help?
Rose |
The zoom that comes as the kit lens for most SLRs will be less than adequate for the shots you mention. You'd need to get an additional lens. The kit lens is for wide angle shots. |
Surely something like a 15x zoom would work? I mean, with the 6x I am "almost" there. A couple more feet and I would be elated, so the zoom lens that comes with the 300 or 350D isn't good enough to give me a few more feet?
Rose |
The lens that comes with the Rebel is 18-55mm. Lens aren't measured in zoom factor. Look in your manual for the 35mm camera equivalent for the lens on your camera to better understand the reach of SLR lenses.
Message edited by author 2005-11-27 18:58:18.
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11/27/2005 06:57:42 PM · #30 |
The EF 100-400mm lens is about $1400. It took a long time for me to make that purchase decision. It cost more than my first car. With the 1.6 sensor on the Rebel 300D camera I think I can shoot at 640mm.
The kit lens that comes with the Rebel is an 18-55mm, so there is no zoom-zoom with that. I used it long enough to know I wanted something better. There are less expensive Zoom Telephoto lenses, but Canon got me hooked on the performance and quality of the 70-200mm L lens. |
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11/27/2005 10:12:56 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by scrum8:
The EF 100-400mm lens is about $1400. It took a long time for me to make that purchase decision. It cost more than my first car. With the 1.6 sensor on the Rebel 300D camera I think I can shoot at 640mm.
The kit lens that comes with the Rebel is an 18-55mm, so there is no zoom-zoom with that. I used it long enough to know I wanted something better. There are less expensive Zoom Telephoto lenses, but Canon got me hooked on the performance and quality of the 70-200mm L lens. |
My fujifilm finepix 3800 has a 6x. The Samsun Pro 815 says it has a 15x. I do not know the equivalent of "mm" verses "x". I am assuming that if a 15x is greater than a 6x, then it must mean better zooming in action. Surely the Canon has a zoom in and out button? This is what I am talking about. I need one that zooms in and out closer than my 6x of the 3800. If anyone can tell me that, please chime in, cause otherwise I am lost as to what the lens that comes with the 300D does. I will eventually find out anyway, when I go shopping. Hubby says we are going soon to put one on layaway and then pick it up in the spring, so I will be checking them out soon enough. However, I live in the sticks. I may not be getting to a camera store, perse`, and will have to use what I can learn online to make my choice. So if anyone can help, I would appreciate it. I really am not that 'technology terms' inclined.
Rose
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11/27/2005 10:34:49 PM · #32 |
rose - you might want to seriouly consider staying with a P&S camera like you have. Based on your experience and the explanaitons you have given for why you want the "canon" it seems you would be more comfortable with something like you have with a longer zoom range. There are many good 12x camera out now as well as a few 15x.
Go here and chosoe the features you wnat and look at what is offered.
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11/27/2005 10:38:51 PM · #33 |
Rose,
The lens on your 3800 is equivalent to 38-228mm in terms of SLRs. So the aforementioned 100-400 lens would indeed give you more reach, almost double. the combination of the Kit lens and a telephoto zoom (like the 100-400) would provide coverage both wider and longer than your current cam, but at a very steep price.
there are other non-interchangable -lens cams out there with greater zoom capability, and it's probable that a telephoto adapter is available that will fit your current camera. Do be careful in purchasing an adapter, though there are many really poor quality ones on the market. The best thing is to stick with the one produced FOR your camera, here is the one that is supposed to fit. I can't find this listed at retail in the US, so it might be hard to find.
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11/27/2005 10:44:38 PM · #34 |
Maybe I should explain. The "canon" that you mention is a DSLR that uses interchangable lenses, like the old 35mm cameras you may have seen in the past. They are considerabley more complicated to operate and much more expensive in the long run. There will be a never ending list of options you will wnat to buy including lenses. Most likely into the thousands of dollars.
If you decide that you wish to have a DSLR (vs a point and shoot digital) then you will want study them carefully first. You have many brands to choose from all of which offer good entry level cameras, Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Minolta to name a few. You should look at each and see if they have lenses in the range you think you will need int he future. Hold the cameras, shoot with them if possible, see what feels right and which is more intuitive for you.
Don't jump in without much research and trial. It is an expensive venture. Fun, but expensive. |
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11/27/2005 10:46:09 PM · #35 |
| Fritz gives good advice. An even simpler solution than I outlined. |
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11/27/2005 10:48:25 PM · #36 |
The finepix 3800 6x zoom is the equivalent of 38-118mm zoom on a 35mm camera. This is roughly the same as mounting a 24-144mm zoom on a 300D or 20D. So two canon lenses approximate that range; the 28-135mm and the 28-200mm.
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11/27/2005 11:25:55 PM · #37 |
Thank you everyone for your advice. I will take everything into consideration, except for sticking with a point and shoot. I really want to get a camera I can build upon for the money, instead of spending the same amount on a camera that can't be built upon.
In any case, I think I understand everything much better now, and will do some hands on shopping and maybe even some trials with them before purchase.
Thanks again! You have all been very helpful!!!
Rose
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11/28/2005 03:59:14 PM · #38 |
I just remembered my neighbour has the 100-400...ummm, perhaps I might be able to borrow it at the weekend? But, I'd have to give it back.
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11/28/2005 04:10:59 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by Formerlee:
I just remembered my neighbour has the 100-400...ummm, perhaps I might be able to borrow it at the weekend? But, I'd have to give it back.
Steve |
or move after you "borrow" it. :-)
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11/28/2005 04:16:09 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by donniev:
Originally posted by Formerlee:
I just remembered my neighbour has the 100-400...ummm, perhaps I might be able to borrow it at the weekend? But, I'd have to give it back.
Steve |
or move after you "borrow" it. :-) |
Dammit!! What a great idea! Make a note: Borrow lens, put wife in car, dog in shed, dogfood in car, petrol in dog, Keys in pocket, camera in bag, bag in car...drive away really fast!!
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11/28/2005 04:24:36 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by rose:
Surely the Canon has a zoom in and out button? |
This made me laugh! :)
... I sort of agree with the comment that was made about sticking to a point and shoot camera for now. For what you have mentioned I think a perfect match would be a Canon S2.
Message edited by author 2005-11-28 16:25:29. |
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