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11/26/2005 06:59:03 PM · #1 |
I finally decided to take the plunge and purchase neat image. I got the home package which is like $30 and it's the stand-alone program (not the photoshop plug-in).
You can output non-compressed TIFF's or JPG's at maximum quality with this version.
I must say, I ran a few tests, and I will no longer be afraid to shoot at 800 ISO or higher. I just tested a 1000 ISO shot, and it's acceptable by any and all means. I'd post a sample, but I deleted them heh...was just a picture of my water lol.
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anyway, check it out //www.neatimage.com/
You can download a free version to test and save in a compressed format (probably ok for dpc entries, but definately not for prints)...make sure to download your camera's profiles or make your own because that makes a world of a difference.
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Also, I thought I'd mention a lot of folks are using noise ninja as well, but after careful research, I decided that personally, neat image was better for me. But I bet their noise reduction is just as good as neat image...it's all about which layout you prefer.
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11/26/2005 07:00:57 PM · #2 |
| I am getting ready to purchase neat image...I have the nemo and I love it..!! I will agree...taking shots at 1000 or 1600 is not a problem now..!! Awesome stuff..!! |
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11/26/2005 07:08:52 PM · #3 |
| amen and if you "overdo" it, well just look at my Aeon images ;) |
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11/26/2005 07:19:52 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Rikki:
amen and if you "overdo" it, well just look at my Aeon images ;) |
oh that's the other thing I wanted to mention...it's easy to overdo it if you auto profile...which you can do from time to time on purpose...but as long as you download your camera's profiles, and load the coresponding ISO's profile (ie, 200, 320, 400, etc) then I don't think you can overdo it (well at least I haven't yet).
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11/26/2005 07:52:14 PM · #5 |
| To tell the truth I never really did like NeatImage. I did try it out and I did use it a lot on my images, but I never liked the results. I got rid of the NeatImage plugin and have stayed with using Photoshop filters ever since. Now with the new Photoshop CS2 "reduce noise" filter, among other filters, I don't think there is any more need for filters like NeatImage. But that is only my opinion. Actually I use no third party filters anymore except for the NIK sharpener, other that that only Photoshop filters. |
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11/26/2005 07:53:38 PM · #6 |
wow cs2 has built in noise reduction, I didn't know that...I guess it works just as good as NI and NN?
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11/26/2005 08:01:12 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by deapee:
wow cs2 has built in noise reduction, I didn't know that...I guess it works just as good as NI and NN? |
CS2 does have a built-in noise rduction filter, and it is supposedly pretty darn good. I have not put it up against NeatImage, so I can't comment as to whether it is as good. I still use NI, because I'm comfortable with how to get good results, but I may have to give the CS2 filter a go.
NI does have a few shortcomings that are bothersome. It does not seem to work on anything other than an RGB image, and fails when you try to run it with a single channel selected. It wants you to use the channel selection that it has built in, which for the plug-in is redundant.
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11/26/2005 08:01:14 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by deapee:
wow cs2 has built in noise reduction, I didn't know that...I guess it works just as good as NI and NN? |
Yeah it does, it works quite well too, although I am still experimenting with it :) |
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11/26/2005 08:02:19 PM · #9 |
The reduce noise filters in PS work a bit differently than NI. For me, NI is able to retain a bit more detail and eliminate more of the underlying chromatic noise than the PS filters (along with combos I've tried), but I'm careful not to 'overdo' it.
Message edited by author 2005-11-26 20:03:30. |
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11/26/2005 08:02:59 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
It does not seem to work on anything other than an RGB image |
And that is a major downfall for me!
Message edited by author 2005-11-26 20:03:29. |
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11/26/2005 08:04:52 PM · #11 |
I have the full version of Neat Image which I prefer it to the CS2 noise reduction function, even though I rarely use it.
I guess it is due to my lack of knowledge that NI seems to work wonders on some images, but does very little good for others.
Perhaps some day I'll do some heavy reading to "edumacate" myself about it.
Enjoy your new toy, deapee. |
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11/26/2005 08:05:36 PM · #12 |
In my experience the CS2 noise reduction filter is nowhere near as good as Neat Image. But I may just be using it wrong.
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11/26/2005 08:08:44 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by kirbic:
It does not seem to work on anything other than an RGB image |
And that is a major downfall for me! |
It's beginning to irritate me too, LOL!
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11/26/2005 08:09:25 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by joezl:
In my experience the CS2 noise reduction filter is nowhere near as good as Neat Image. But I may just be using it wrong. |
The noise reduction filter in CS2 is a powerful tool, I am still learning how to use it properly though. But so far I can use it together with a few other PS filters to get more of an accurate result that I can get with NeatImage. |
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11/26/2005 08:10:31 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by kirbic:
It does not seem to work on anything other than an RGB image |
And that is a major downfall for me! |
It's beginning to irritate me too, LOL! |
Then do what I did Fritz and throw it out of your filter directory :) |
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11/26/2005 08:26:39 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by kirbic:
It does not seem to work on anything other than an RGB image |
And that is a major downfall for me! |
It's beginning to irritate me too, LOL! |
Then do what I did Fritz and throw it out of your filter directory :) |
Aye, I suppose you're right, I should just disable it as a plug-in and force myself to use the CS2 tool so I learn it thoroughly. then go back & see if I still like the results from NI.
Of course, I don't have much use for either one with the output from the 5D :-)
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11/26/2005 08:50:11 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by deapee:
wow cs2 has built in noise reduction, I didn't know that...I guess it works just as good as NI and NN? |
PI 10 has built in noise reduction, but it stinks. PI 11 has much better noise reduction, but still not par with NI in quality or customization. I have only used NI so can't speak for other aps, but with attention to the settings some very dramatic effects can be produced, from the simple reduction of noise to the total plasticization of skin making someone appear as a digitized animation. For this alone, the versatility, I think it is a really useful ap for the creative as well as the nit picker. |
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11/26/2005 10:22:40 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by joezl:
In my experience the CS2 noise reduction filter is nowhere near as good as Neat Image. But I may just be using it wrong. |
I totally agree. the CS2 filter never seems to do as good a job as Neat Image. |
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11/26/2005 11:44:09 PM · #19 |
I have both Neat Image and Noise Ninja of which I like Noise Ninja the best. Just seems easier for me to use.
But now that RAW Shooter Premium has built in noise reduction I find I hardly use anything but that. Seems pretty powerful with tools to suppress regular noise, color noise and hot pixel / pattern noise. |
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