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11/20/2005 11:04:08 PM · #1 |
My entry in the Single Light Source II was dq'd for use of "spot editing" but I didn't use any spot editing! They don't even try to explain where and how they think I used it they just assume I did.. Thats CRAP! bah I know its probably all stupid anyways but I really thought my entry would do well... |
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11/20/2005 11:06:08 PM · #2 |
I'm sure someone would explain it to you if you sent them a message... |
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11/20/2005 11:06:47 PM · #3 |
We didn't actually just assume. No one was able to replicate your results with the information you provided us. |
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11/20/2005 11:07:32 PM · #4 |
hollister - post the original in your folio and then post your entry. Let's see what dis is all about.
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11/20/2005 11:07:39 PM · #5 |
I feel your pain. Went through the same exact thing during Reflections without mirrors. I felt my DQ was unfair also, but because I was unable to produce exact steps to achieve my end product, the DQ stayed. Don't let it get ya down though.
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11/20/2005 11:11:00 PM · #6 |
I'll try and remember to upload those when I get back to my home computer (at the inlaws right now) but so should I just write down my steps that I use to acheive my outcome just so I can easily prove that it's legit? |
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11/20/2005 11:12:49 PM · #7 |
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11/20/2005 11:25:03 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by hollisterGq: should I just write down my steps that I use to acheive my outcome just so I can easily prove that it's legit? |
It's a good idea if you did quite a bit of (basic) editting on the photo to write it down.
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11/20/2005 11:26:00 PM · #9 |
better yet, if you use Adobe CS, turn on your history log ;) |
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11/20/2005 11:37:17 PM · #10 |
okay - i honestly don't know how to do that. Someone needs to tell me *smiles sweetly at Rikki* |
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11/20/2005 11:40:39 PM · #11 |
yeah im usin Cs... I uploaded the two..
Entry into Challenge:
//dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=260164
ORIGINAL:
//dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=260165
Message edited by author 2005-11-20 23:47:51. |
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11/20/2005 11:42:13 PM · #12 |
To set Edit History Log options:
1. In Windows, choose Edit > Preferences > General. In Mac OS, choose Photoshop > Preferences > General.
2. In the History Log Options pane, choose one of the following options:
* Metadata to store entries in the metadata of each image.
* Text File to export the text into an external file. You'll be prompted to name the log file and choose the location on your computer where you want to store the file.
* Both to store metadata in the file, and create a text file.
3. From the Edit Log items pop-up menu, choose one of the following options:
* Sessions to include entries for each time Photoshop is launched or exited, and each time files are opened and closed (each image's file name is included).
* Concise to include the text that appears in the history palette in addition to the Sessions information.
* Detailed to include the text that appears in the actions palette in addition to the Concise information. Choose Detailed if you need to keep a complete history of what has been done to files.
* None to turn off the log.
To save the Edit History Log:
1. In Windows, choose Edit > Preferences > General. In Mac OS, choose Photoshop > Preferences > General.
2. In the History Log Options pane, click the Choose button.
3. Choose the location where you want to save the log, and then click OK.
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11/20/2005 11:42:51 PM · #13 |
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11/20/2005 11:45:33 PM · #14 |
The first one won't let us see the picture as it's no longer "in" the challenge. You need to upload another copy of the entered image into your portfolio so we can see it, or we have to wait for the challenge to finish.
R. |
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11/20/2005 11:47:29 PM · #15 |
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11/20/2005 11:48:42 PM · #16 |
Darn, there's one of my high votes wasted :-(
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11/20/2005 11:51:45 PM · #17 |
You're probably better off sending a PM to the SC explaining exactly what you have done and argue your point with them. There must be a reason they have picked up on spot editing that maybe you can elaborate more on. |
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11/20/2005 11:52:01 PM · #18 |
if you gave me a high vote I appreciate it! |
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11/20/2005 11:55:34 PM · #19 |
thanks mk for the instructions and thank you Rikki for knowing i wouldn't be able to do it without a visual referance lol. |
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11/20/2005 11:58:24 PM · #20 |
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11/20/2005 11:59:11 PM · #21 |
That being said, I can do a LOT in photoshop and I don't think this effect is possible in basic editing.
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11/20/2005 11:59:14 PM · #22 |
so he's penalized because YOU ALL can't do what he did under basic editing?
If the validity of your submitted photograph comes into question, you may be asked to submit your original, unmodified photograph and steps to recreate your submitted photograph from your original photograph. This original photograph must contain valid, unaltered EXIF data. If you cannot (or do not) submit your original photo within 48 hours of the request, your photograph will be disqualified. In addition, your challenge submission privileges will be suspended until a response is received. The response may consist of a message indicating that you do not have the original
All it says is that you MAY be asked to provide editing steps...not that you MUST record them exactly, and if you don't, and your editing skills and time involved is more than that of the site council, you will be DQ'd. Technically, he followed the rules (assuming he followed basic editing).
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11/21/2005 12:10:59 AM · #23 |
list me everything that is allowable in basic editing.. or list me what isnt allowable that might be easier..
but i think this is rediculous honestly! |
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11/21/2005 12:19:01 AM · #24 |
adjustments are allowed that affect the whole photo equally - like levels, curves, sharpen...
things that aren't allowed:
nik filters
vignette actions
multiple layers
marquee tool selections except borders
quick masks
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11/21/2005 12:20:26 AM · #25 |
From the DPC website...hope this helps! :-)
Post-shot Adjustments may be made to your image in a photo editing program, so long as the modification is applied to the whole image. This includes levels, conversion to black and white, hue/saturation, sizing/rotating, curves and cropping (or their non-Photoshop equivalents). The use of certain editing and adjustment tools is restricted or prohibited as outlined below.
Filters: The use of filters (or non-Photoshop equivalent) is strictly limited. Any filter or stand-alone utility designed and used to preserve the integrity of the image and/or reduce the effects of noise, scratches, etc, are permitted. These include but are not limited to the Sharpen, Unsharp Mask, and Dust & Scratches filters, and standalone image cleanup utilities such as NeatImage. However, no effects filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian Blur, which are allowed. Any filter permitted by this rule must be applied uniformly to the entire image. Selective application of any filter is prohibited.
Spot-Editing: Absolutely no spot-editing is allowed. This includes, but is not limited to drawing tools, dodging/burning tools, and cloning tools. Additionally, the use of any type of selection tool is prohibited except to select a non-feathered, non-anti-aliased rectangular area for cropping.
Layers: Only Adjustment Layers (or the non-Photoshop equivalent) may be used. An Adjustment Layer is one that does not contain any pixel data, but rather is a special, non-image layer that lets you experiment with color and tonal adjustments to an image without permanently modifying the pixels. Adjustment Layers must be applied in Normal mode. All other types of layers (including those that contain pixel data or masks) and all other blending methods (modes) are prohibited. Changing the opacity of an Adjustment Layer is permitted.
Borders: It is suggested that if you decide to use a border, you should only use one or two solid colors around the outside of your photo. However, alternative borders are allowed, as long as they do not contain any text, clip art, photographs, or other artwork.
No text may be added to your submission. This includes copyright statements.
The biggy that gets most people in "Spot Editing" is probably Dodge/Burn. Also, I don't know the steps of your processing, but things that alter only one spot or portion of the photo would (I think) qualify as spot editing. I know I've had a couple pictures where I've wanted to use some lighting features in PS, but I don't think they are allowed by basic editing...possibly advanced either as that would add an element to the photo (in my opinion).
Again, hope this helps a bit. |
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