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11/19/2005 09:12:58 AM · #1
So I've started turning old records into a digital recoarding and was wondering if anybody has done this before and what program did you use???
11/19/2005 09:17:56 AM · #2
I did it a few years back with a program called cool edit pro! I just ran my turntable through a pre-amp which I ran into my soundcard and they turned out perfect!
11/19/2005 09:23:06 AM · #3
Originally posted by Makka:

I did it a few years back with a program called cool edit pro! I just ran my turntable through a pre-amp which I ran into my soundcard and they turned out perfect!


Was it free??? and does it take out a lot of the noise, crackles and clicks or just some or most???

Message edited by author 2005-11-19 09:23:38.
11/19/2005 09:24:24 AM · #4
Roxio (Toast, Easy CD Creator) used to bundle a program called CD Spin Doctor with Toast. It can record a long track (like a whole album side) and then break it up later into individual tracks.

It also came with some simple filters to reduce hiss, scratches and pops, and to "enhance" the sound.

I'd suggest searching the reviews, articles and tutorials in the extensive audio section over at cNet.com
11/19/2005 09:26:12 AM · #5
Just an idea...

As you own the vinyl copies, you have paid for the right to listen to the contents. Therefore, I would imagine that if you downloaded the relevant tracks as mp3s from a file-sharing site, you would not be falling too foul of copyright laws. This might be quicker and easier than digitising music from vinyl.

I'm sure that someone can jump in and clarify.
11/19/2005 09:40:35 AM · #6
Originally posted by AJAger:

Just an idea...

As you own the vinyl copies, you have paid for the right to listen to the contents. Therefore, I would imagine that if you downloaded the relevant tracks as mp3s from a file-sharing site, you would not be falling too foul of copyright laws. This might be quicker and easier than digitising music from vinyl.

I'm sure that someone can jump in and clarify.


Your right. Actually in Canada it is not illegal to download music for free as we pay a media tax on cd's tapes etc. I currently have approx. 150 gigs of music of which I have the licenses for but recording this is a special project.

Project Storey:
I went and visited my grandparents last spring. One of my uncles was there and they were talking about the family and how they were not religious and the extent of their religion was a record they played on sundays while having pancakes. The record was called "Hymns At Sunset by Ralph Carmichael". I could see how emotional they were discussing this and thought I'd buy them a cd. I could not find this on cd anywhere on the internet to just buy it but I knew I had it on vynl so I digitized it as a suprise. For christmas I'm sending my grandparents, my aunts and uncles all a copy of this album with instructions that at 10am christmas morning they play this cd for the first time while having pancakes and remember eachother as they all now live far apart and will not be able to get together at christmas. I'm not close with my family but just wanted to do something nice for them since my mother passed.
11/19/2005 11:34:44 AM · #7
Wow! What a thoughtfull gift, notonline! I am sure the impression you make and the memories brought to life will last for a very very long time.

11/19/2005 11:47:54 AM · #8
Originally posted by notonline:

So I've started turning old records into a digital recoarding and was wondering if anybody has done this before and what program did you use???


I use a program called virtual DJ it has a great vinyl ripper that is easy to use. I have been doing vinyl rips for many years. You know I am close to you so e-mail if you have some questions.
11/19/2005 11:49:33 AM · #9
Originally posted by AJAger:

Just an idea...

As you own the vinyl copies, you have paid for the right to listen to the contents. Therefore, I would imagine that if you downloaded the relevant tracks as mp3s from a file-sharing site, you would not be falling too foul of copyright laws. This might be quicker and easier than digitising music from vinyl.

I'm sure that someone can jump in and clarify.


I really don't know if this would fall under "fair use" or not... from a quality standpoint, AFAIK most of the "free" downloads are pretty low bitrate, and don't compare to even the vinyl copies in quality. My strategy has been to repurchase on CD where the've added value by remastering, and I've been amazed by the quality, so I'd strongly recommend that path for the stuff you really love if it's been remastered. Otherwise, if the vinyl's in pristine conditon and it was a good copy when new then an analog tansfer can result in darn good reproduction.
I too used CoolEdit years ago, too bad that Syntrillium got bought up and CoolEdit is no more. Neither is SoundForge, my other old standby :-P Would love to hear what others are using in place of these.
11/19/2005 12:19:59 PM · #10
We use a program called Sound Forge. It works really well, but you may need a little sound editing knowledge in order to use it. I've used it many times following instructions my boyfriend wrote down, but I'm not sure if I could have figured it out on my own...
11/19/2005 01:53:11 PM · #11
Originally posted by kearock:

We use a program called Sound Forge. It works really well, but you may need a little sound editing knowledge in order to use it. I've used it many times following instructions my boyfriend wrote down, but I'm not sure if I could have figured it out on my own...


I have an old verion of SoundForge, and I loved that program. Unfortunately, Sonic Foundry sold both that and Vegas Video (another great program) to Sony... my old license no longer entitles me to any upgrades or support, as far as I can tell, and in any case I would never buy music software from Sony, given their horrible record of treading heavily on my "fair use" rights for music I have purchased, and their tendency to need to be different, meaning Sony stuff doesn't "play well with others."
11/19/2005 02:28:14 PM · #12
I have had good success with a program called Cakewalk Pyro.

Nice to see how many others still have their records around.

Anybody else have trouble getting their kids to accept the fact that these huge disks hold less music than a CD?
11/19/2005 03:00:08 PM · #13
I used Cooledit, which was free a long time ago. It was the fastest and easiest program to use if you had to manually divide the songs.

There was a trial of a newer package back in 2000, called Cooledit 2000 if I'm not mistaken.

But the audio editor that's been included in Nero CD Burning software since V6 (maybe earlier, don't remember) is, as far as I can tell, an OEM version of Cooledit and works as well.

This isn't wizard driven software for capturing. It's powerful, but no wizards, so it depends on your needs. I am sure Nero probably also bundles an easier encoder, but I don't have any records left, so I haven't tried it.
11/19/2005 03:10:36 PM · #14
I've done it... Here's my method:
record player, goes to:
mixer board, goes to:
preamp on the breakout box, goes to:
sound card, goes to:
goldwave program.

It does an amazing job for a less then 1mb program. Simply the best recording option for single track recording i've seen used.

it even does high/low pass filters, click/pop, you can edit click pops manually by zooming in and finding the blip and leveling it out with the mouse. you can also do noise reduction, eq, anything. It'll save to almost any format, and will record at any quality (limited by your hardware).

Message edited by author 2005-11-19 15:13:22.
11/19/2005 04:16:55 PM · #15
I still listen to my vinyls on my 20 years old Hitachi HT-L33 turntable! I got to know them very personnaly overs all those years. Their precise "bacon" sizzling sounds, their sometimes recurring fuzzes when they're lightly scratched across and yes, I still anticipate the moment in some songs where I'll have to get-up and reposition the needle because it skips...

Message edited by author 2005-11-19 16:18:46.
11/19/2005 06:45:15 PM · #16
I use Goldwave also. It took some playing with the settings to get it to sound right, but I was able to do it. The most obnoxious part of the whole thing was waiting for the record to play.
11/19/2005 07:48:40 PM · #17
Originally posted by notonline:

Originally posted by Makka:

I did it a few years back with a program called cool edit pro! I just ran my turntable through a pre-amp which I ran into my soundcard and they turned out perfect!


Was it free??? and does it take out a lot of the noise, crackles and clicks or just some or most???


At the time it was, yeah, but I think the newer versions you can still download a free copy but some of the features are disabled but you can choose 2 that you can use! I don't like the noise filtering in most software. They make it sound like crap! I actually spent the time by editing the wave to remove the major pops and clicks. It's a much better result because I found the filters took too much away from the rich sound you get off vinyl!
11/20/2005 07:46:30 AM · #18
Originally posted by northrop3:

I have had good success with a program called Cakewalk Pyro.

Nice to see how many others still have their records around.

Anybody else have trouble getting their kids to accept the fact that these huge disks hold less music than a CD?


lol you know I never even thought of that. Not like I'm around kids that much but this one gave me a chuckle.
11/21/2005 12:41:57 AM · #19
Originally posted by nshapiro:


But the audio editor that's been included in Nero CD Burning software since V6 (maybe earlier, don't remember) is, as far as I can tell, an OEM version of Cooledit and works as well.


Yup, it sure is! I was playing with that just the other day. At one point, it crapped out, and the error even said CoolEdit. :-)
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