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11/16/2005 05:17:40 PM · #1 |
I am only posting this because for some reason the original thread is no longer showing post after "ScottK's" last post. I posted twice and the only way to see my post if if I "reverse" the thread order and make the last post first, which cause the first couple of post to drop off the thread. Instead of risking loosing visibility to original post I decided to repost my comments in this thread. If this is my issue alone please feel free to research the issue, allow me a fix and then we can continue from the original thread.
Originally posted by ScottK:
First of all, concerning Joshua's recent statements, I think maybe what he's trying to say (I haven't read the discussion he linked last yet) is that whatever the real truth is (and he and I believe its contained in the Bible, others believe its contained in science texts, others....), whether or not you believe it is truth does not change its character - it still remains the truth.
For example, I was watching Nova last night, and this week's episode was on Isaac Newton. Apparently, according to Nova (and they made at least one mistake, so maybe I'm on slippery ground), prior to Newton, it was believed that "white" light was pure, and that passing that light through a prism altered or changed the light, creating colored light. Newton proved that white light was actually the combination of the various colors of the spectrum. (I hope I haven't mangled the facts or the terms too much here.)
Now, before Newton's discovery, "white" light was composed of the full (?) spectrum of colors. Before the Romans, before the Greeks, before the Egyptians, before the Mesopotamians, the real truth was that white light contained the entire spectrum of color, no matter what people thought, beleived, or could prove or disprove at their particular point in history. Newton's discovery didn't change the truth, simply revealed it.
So, if the Bible is true, it does not matter whether you can prove or disprove its contents. For you to believe and accept it as true, that may be required, but it does alter that truth. Likewise, if there is no God, if the physical realm is all there is, then the Bible is completely false and useless, and all my faith is pointless. (In fact, even Paul wrote that if Christ did not rise from the dead - a core of the Christian faith and Bible doctrine - that we are to be most pitied.)
I do agree, as has been pointed out, that proving the Bible's truth using scriptures is not valid as proof of its authenticity. I've personally tried to only bring up specific scriptures in response to "where does it say...?" type questions or challenges, and I think that this is true in most cases in this thread for others as well. |
In regards to this piece of your post you are correct in your assessment of part of my point. The other part can be found in the link you mention that you have not had time to read, yet. BTW, I have spent the last 3 work hours researching the site and I find it very interesting on many levels and topics. I am very interested in apologetics, but honestly weak in my understanding of Biblical theory. This site helps provide reference to key readings in the Bible. Thanks for the thoughtful post.
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11/16/2005 05:21:27 PM · #2 |
I see your "test" post and the reply you posted.
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11/16/2005 05:24:53 PM · #3 |
| Yes, seems to be working fine. Locking this thread... |
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11/16/2005 05:25:16 PM · #4 |
do most people view threads ... ascending / decending? I view the ascending or cronological order... 1 would be original post... page 39 would hold the last post. With this sort order I do not see my post in the other thread? I could have rantitis though, which is to many consecutive post in the rant thread.
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