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11/04/2005 01:57:01 PM · #1 |
| alright guys, i have a quick question. i was doing a photo shoot last night at one of the local skatespots and i wanted to do some sequences (burst shots, basically.) and my d70s would only do 4-5 shots at a time. i have a 128mb cf card 1.8 mb transfer, so maybe thats why. i want to get more shots to include more action and capture more of the trick, so that means im going to need a bigger\faster card, correct? and i also plan on getting a fish eye lens for the shots too, any input is great :) thank you |
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11/04/2005 02:37:34 PM · #2 |
Bigger and faster cards will help, but the limiting factor is the depth of your camera's buffer and how fast your camera writes to the card...The D70s can do bursts of 12 JPG shots
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11/04/2005 02:48:57 PM · #3 |
I just typed up a huge reply that took me about 15 minutes and some stupid adware or spyware or whatever it is on my PC, redirected me somewhere else causing me to lose the post. UGHHHHHH.
Anyways, Im gonna redo it in notepad and copy paste it over because I felt like I had some good info, but I am gonna shorten it alot.
Id shy away from bursts and look more towards getting that one perfect shot with one or more off camera flashes. Bursts need extremely high frame rates in skate photography because the tricks are so short in time. For example, If it takes a skater 1 second to jump down four stairs, youre only gonna have 3 shots of that, rather than the 9 some magazines are capable of getting with faster cameras like Nikon D2X's and Canon 1d mk2's.
I currently use only one off camera flash, (Sigma 500 Super) triggered by some cheap ebay radio slaves, but I actually just bought a second, more powerful flash yesterday to use pretty much just for skate. (Vivitar 285). Anyways, the off camera flash will really make your images pop as seen in these two shots I took yesterday of my friends. //www.focusu.com/gallery/showpic.php?uuid=1217&aid=986&pid=13259 and //www.focusu.com/gallery/showpic.php?uuid=1217&aid=986&pid=13261 . Without the flash they would have been lost in the backgrounds. Here is one more shot from the other day //www.focusu.com/gallery/showpic.php?uuid=1217&aid=986&pid=13169 . Excuse the really shitty editing on that last one with that burnt in cloud.
Oh yea, your original question, I would get a big fast card, I use the Sandisk Ultra II 1GB model. I shoot RAW now, usually single frames because I dont have a flash mete and need to fine tune my images in post processing. (Guess and check exposure I have gotten pretty good at, (Im usually within 2/3rd's of a stop of the correct exposure, except for this one shot yesterday that I missed by a lot but salvaged in ACR.)
So somehwere in all that rambling I said I think you should get an off camera flash or two and use those instead of firing away at bursts. And I also think you should buy the 10.5 fisheye because its awesome and only Nikons have such good dedicated fisheyes and you should take adavantage of that.
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11/04/2005 02:56:41 PM · #4 |
yeah, get the fisheye, don't shoot sequences with your d70, it is pointless. Sequences are pretty lame anyways, a still image has way more impact.
i shoot some skateboarding, you should go to //www.skateboardphotography.com and check out stuff there, there's a lot of published skate photogs on that site, and they will tell you exactly what you're doing wrong, and they don't go easy on you either which is good.
Also off camera flashes are key, I usually use 2, sometimes 1 or 3 though.
here are a few of my skate photos .. shot with my d70 or on 120 slide film, all with a few flashes.
//www.phphoto.net/sports
Also another tip, never shoot wide, unless you shoot fisheye. A good rule for skateboarding photos is either fisheye, or longer than 50 mm.
This doesn't always hold true, but 99.9 % of wide angle skate photos look like sh*t.
Message edited by author 2005-11-04 15:03:58. |
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11/06/2005 10:59:25 PM · #5 |
thanks very much for the responses guys :)
i plan on getting a sb-800 pretty soon, so if i use it for an off camera flash im going to need to get some kind of cord to go from my hot shoe to the flash right?
i have a sb-24 that i used for my 8008s but it doesnt work with my d70s |
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11/06/2005 11:06:00 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by mluckxxx:
thanks very much for the responses guys :)
i plan on getting a sb-800 pretty soon, so if i use it for an off camera flash im going to need to get some kind of cord to go from my hot shoe to the flash right?
i have a sb-24 that i used for my 8008s but it doesnt work with my d70s |
No, the sb800 you can set wherever you want...pop up your on-camera flash, select in the menu "commander mode" and check your sb800 manual (hold the two buttons on the lower left) and set it to remote mode...and it will fire from your popup flash, no cables or cords needed. You can fire up to 6 of them (I'd actually suggest the sb600 for many reasons -- but if you're curious as to why then I can explain it then).
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For skating stuff, you might be more into the pocket wizard... //www.pocketwizard.com/
here's a sample ...
//www.sportsshooter.com/funpix_view.html?id=4311 -- notice the big flash in the middle, that's one...and there's one up in the tree also. You basically mount it to your hotshoe and they fire something like up to 1000 feet away...perfect for what you're doing...you can also fire your camera remotely as well.
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EDIT: and yeah I agree about the sequence shots...3.5 fps is fast, but it's not all that fast heh. I got a new card not too long ago that was the fastest out, and the speed increase noticeably, but 3.5 fps is 3.5 fps you know...
Message edited by author 2005-11-06 23:08:49.
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11/07/2005 04:25:44 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by deapee:
...3.5 fps is fast, but it's not all that fast heh. |
Chuckle... and here i was thinking my 5fps was too slow for shooting the sports i shoot :|
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11/07/2005 01:31:47 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by riot:
Originally posted by deapee:
...3.5 fps is fast, but it's not all that fast heh. |
Chuckle... and here i was thinking my 5fps was too slow for shooting the sports i shoot :| |
Well I can tell ya its too slow for skate.
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11/07/2005 01:45:39 PM · #9 |
| Although the D70 has 3-3.5 fps, I have found that the AF servo often does not keep up with this frame rate for fast-moving subjects. My experience with the D70 has been that a higher percentage of 'keepers' come from just trying to get one good infocus shot rather than using the burst mode. I have found better results from repeated clicks of the finger rather than holding down the shutter for a burst shot. |
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11/07/2005 06:56:01 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by deapee:
pop up your on-camera flash, select in the menu "commander mode" |
yeah i dont see commander mode anywhere on my d70s. i think you're talking about the actual commander module that you can purchase from nikon |
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11/07/2005 06:58:20 PM · #11 |
nevermind, i just found it!
thanks :) |
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