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 11/03/2005 06:04:52 PM · #26
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Well, remember I meant "what works" to mean "what works in general". With that idea, a high score is almost "what works" by definition. I certainly also believe in "what works for me" and that doesn't correlate nearly as well with a high score.


I know I may get hammered for this a bit but I do not agree that a high score is almost "what works" by definition.

If by "what works" you mean what works to get a high score, then yes, logic would say you are absolutely correct.

If you mean high scores shows "what works" is that the higher score means it is a better photo..I disagree.

Remember, we are talking art, not math :-D So I am sure I will get a lot of disagreement with me on this ...which is very cool. :-D
 11/03/2005 06:11:53 PM · #27
Originally posted by hokie:
...If by "what works" you mean what works to get a high score, then yes, logic would say you are absolutely correct...


My guess is that this is what he meant :)
 11/03/2005 06:13:37 PM · #28
Just call me Captain 5.9xxx
 11/03/2005 06:25:46 PM · #29
this is what a lifetime 5.6 average looks like custom dart boards
 11/03/2005 07:10:24 PM · #30
Well, I am at 6.01 over my last 15 challenge entries (out of 81 challenges)...

I really admire those that can consistently turn out the creative and technically strong images challenge after challenge.

There is definitely something to be said about getting above 6.0... it definitely makes it quite a bit more enjoyable to submit photos:)
 11/03/2005 07:20:44 PM · #31
the thing that gets us all is finding images that look good and fit the challenge. I know for me that is a big problem, but due to my hefty school work load and the fact that I work full time in a studio I don't have time or energy to shoot just for a challenge. I try to find something that I have taken through the week that I think fits....obviously I suck at that
 11/03/2005 07:32:24 PM · #32
yeah i recently made it to the 6 average by a little (6.0002) :).. it has been one of my goals.
11/03/2005 07:45:51 PM · #33
Some enter challenges here & there, if and only if it's something they can do well and keep their scores high. I get a real kick out of trying new things, having a reason to go out & about, and I think it's more fun to get the crap kicked out of a shot that was fun to do, than sit back and take no risks.

Then there are those here that can participate in most any challenge and shine.
To those that are that versatile and skilled, I tip my hat.
 11/03/2005 08:43:18 PM · #34
A few more who are carrying a 6 point average --

timj351 - 6.0792 after 68 challenges
EddyG - 6.1961 after 80
dan_pendleton - 6.1121 after 49
Gringo - 6.1218 after 74
thelsel - 6.2207 after 33

and this guy is so close he gets honorary membership in the club --

kosmikkreeper - 5.9979 after 132 challenges

11/03/2005 08:50:42 PM · #35
Originally posted by hokie:
...I do not agree that a high score is almost "what works" by definition.


I've seen this comment many times before (including from some highly respected members), but I think it's a little misguided. Remember that this is NOT simply art... it's a challenge. The topic is an assignment, and your job is to produce a great photo that meets the assignment. With that in mind, DrAchoo is right: a high score is a photo that works (at least according to a few hundred people).

The forums are full of people proclaiming that a low score doesn't equal a bad photo, and that's often true. There are some exceptional photos that received low scores because they didn't effectively meet the challenge. If your assignment from National Geographic is to shoot New Guinea tribesmen, then the world's finest image of a polar bear is still a failure. If you do that often enough, you will have a great portfolio- and a lousy performance rating.

When I hear, "shoot to please yourself," I don't think the intention is to urge people to take pictures that only THEY like. What would be the point? The real message IMO is to shoot what interests you rather than trying too hard to meet the challenge at the expense of your strengths. Great photographers like Imagineer, Jmsetzler and BradP will sometimes appear to be in a scoring slump, but not because they aren't capable of scoring well (they've already proven themselves). It's more likely because they're out shooting the subjects and techniques that THEY enjoy rather than aiming specifically for Garbage IV. They're putting the art before the challenge. I can't point to any of their averages and claim that I'm a better photographer, because it simply ain't so.

The bottom line is that high scores and averages generally DO indicate great photography, but not all great photographers will have a high average. It all depends on what they're shooting for.
 11/03/2005 09:13:05 PM · #36
Originally posted by BradP:
Some enter challenges here & there, if and only if it's something they can do well and keep their scores high. I get a real kick out of trying new things, having a reason to go out & about, and I think it's more fun to get the crap kicked out of a shot that was fun to do, than sit back and take no risks.

Then there are those here that can participate in most any challenge and shine.
To those that are that versatile and skilled, I tip my hat.


I do too. I only shoot when I have a great idea for the challenge. I definitely shoot for the masses, I thought that this is what this site's about. You can complain how it is, try to play to the masses, or not give a hoot. Too be a high scorer a photo has to be an original take on the theme but it must be well executed and processed for "pop". But most importantly it has to be a "good photo" I agree with what scalvert says also.

I sit very contented with 5.04 and have nothing but respect for those with averages above 6. (I know how hard it was to get mine to five)

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