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11/01/2005 11:25:23 PM · #1 |
i'm new to the photography world. i just purchased a Nikon D70s about 4 weeks ago and i'm addicted, i borrow my friends equipment whenever we both go on shoots together..she has a ton of lenses i love to use. one of my favs is her 70-200mm VR nikkor. I loved it so much i'm looking into buying a VR as well.. well anyway heres what i just found, announced today by nikon and on sale next month!
18-200MM VR DX lens, what do you guys think? i know it will replace my current 18-70mm 3.6f...do you guys think i should sell my 18-70mm if i get this lens? any thoughts on it??
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11/01/2005 11:31:01 PM · #2 |
Im not sure youll see the same quality in this 3.5-5.6 11.1x zoom lens as you would in a constant f2.8 70-200 top of the line telephoto zoom. If youre looking for the range over the image quality, the 18-200 is the way to go, however if youre willing to sacrafice range for quality, id go for the 70-200 2.8 and stick with the 18-70 as well.
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11/01/2005 11:33:21 PM · #3 |
| I love quality more than anything, and thought the VR was the reason it was so sharp |
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11/01/2005 11:34:49 PM · #4 |
| and i'm not interested in the 70-200 because i can just borrow hers. quality is great on it imo |
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11/01/2005 11:35:55 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Presidente:
I love quality more than anything, and thought the VR was the reason it was so sharp |
Nope. The sharpness of the 70-200 has to do with lens quality. Stay with constant aperture zooms if you must use a zoom. |
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11/01/2005 11:37:08 PM · #6 |
Yea, im a canon guy myself, so Im just assuming the quality of the 70-200 2.8 nikkor matches the quality of canons 70-200 2.8L. Top of the line telephoto zooms are probably almost always better quality than nice all-in-one lenses.
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11/01/2005 11:45:28 PM · #7 |
The 18-200 VR may have VR, but it is still a slow consumer zoom. There are significant optical compromises made to achieve that huge zoom range, and the impact on image quality is ot subtle :-P
If you're used to the superb image quality the 70-200/2.8 VR gives, you'l very likely be quite disappointed in the 18-200. Not that I've read any reviews of it, but unless Nikon is breaking the laws of optics, because it MUST be.
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11/01/2005 11:49:13 PM · #8 |
i'll have to wait till it comes out then and see any reviews on it..
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11/02/2005 12:53:23 AM · #9 |
| Any 10x zoom is sacrificing quality for zoom range. Unless this lens costs several thousand dollars, I'd stay away and buy a couple of better lenses to cover the same range unless you have some need to have that kind of huge zoom range. |
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11/02/2005 01:14:57 AM · #10 |
Depends on what you want. I agree with the other comments regarding quality of the image. Go and read reviews on the Tamron/Sigma/Tokin 18-200 lenses and you'll probably find similar compromises in the new Nikon.
On the positive side, being a new design, wave motor, VR and such it has some features that the others cannot match that would make it a spectacular walkaround lens.
You should wait for reviews and then look at sample images and decide if it is what you are looking for. I just got a new lens yesterday after much research and tossing and turning instead of sleeping. I wanted more reach for walking around than my 18-50 2.8, but the constant aperture has to be experienced to be appreciated and that lens is not affordable to me, so my compromise with myself was the Tamron SP AF24-135.
Your compromise is up to you. But once you start down the road to good glass, there is no going back! I know the day after i get my first L lens i'll hate my current glass that i now love. |
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11/02/2005 01:19:16 AM · #11 |
| I guarantee you the 18-200 vr will not be as sharp or be build as well as the 80-200 2.8 .. I will eat garbage if that If I am wrong, and you can choose the garbage. |
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11/02/2005 01:22:49 AM · #12 |
I think it sounds fantastic. I saw it today on DPReview and started wishing I could get one for my Canon! I think IS/VR is great, and I would kill to have a single walk-around lens with both wide and telephoto that had IS!
I have a Sigma 18-125 that I'm happy with, and I know others who have the Sigma 18-200 which is also very good. I'm sure the Nikon is a good lens, and while it may not be as sharp as another lesser zoom lens, the same could be said of that lesser zoom--it's not as sharp as a prime. Yet people use zooms, because they are convenient. This sounds like a very convenient lens, with some great features!
I've both missed shots while changing lenses, or passed on a shot because I didn't want to bother changing lenses. With a nice zoom range like that, you are "ready"!
Further, not having to change lenes might improve your shooting in another aspect: you won't have to worry about getting dust in the camera and having that ruin shots!
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11/02/2005 09:41:24 AM · #13 |
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11/02/2005 09:51:31 AM · #14 |
I see no difference between them, sharpness wise. They all seem low on contrast, perhaps 1/2 stop underexposed.
Since you've used both, do you use the extra reach of the 300mm lens?
What aperture do you most of the time?
Do you find yourself shooting at high ISO to get the exposure you want, either ap or shutter speed?
Those answers will help guide you to a lens for you. |
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11/02/2005 11:11:04 AM · #15 |
After shopping for a few weeks looking at medium zooms and speaking with the guys at J&R, B&H and Adorama...I soon figured out that lenses that are trying to do too much, don't really do much of anything very well. I'm sure there are exceptions but none that I saw...or were recommended by salseman who stood to make a higher priced sale.
Ask around this site about the Tamron 28-75mm 2.8. Mucho bang for your buck.
After looking seriously at about 6 lenses, the guy from B&H summed it best when he said "...out of all the lenses you just looked at, this (the Tamron 28-75mm) is the only one I've never heard a single complaint about." Then he gave me a look like...this is a no brainer. |
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11/02/2005 11:16:39 AM · #16 |
| Very good rule of thumb is: The wider the zoom range the lower the quality...If you want only one lens for your DSLR so that you don't have to change lenses then you should probably get one of these 12x zoom Point and Shoots... |
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11/02/2005 11:22:08 AM · #17 |
Ken Rockwell's thoughts
Keep an eye out here for info. |
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11/02/2005 11:25:00 AM · #18 |
Yes....we all long for a 12-400mm f/2.8 or less zoom...
Good news, one should be available in about 40yrs.
(some of the new "spinning" liquid lenses should be able to accomplish such. However, these will require a lot of battery power as well. So probably about 40 yrs before they're viable) |
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11/02/2005 11:50:50 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
I see no difference between them, sharpness wise. They all seem low on contrast, perhaps 1/2 stop underexposed. |
Isn't that just from using a nikon? :)
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11/02/2005 09:10:11 PM · #20 |
I shot with one of these today at the zoo, if you guys are interested i'll post up what results i got but some came out too dark or too bright. my friend who owns it said she heard it was better than the current 18-70 on the nikon but when she saw it she saw no difference..i guess if you guys want i'll post them tho once i look at the card
Originally posted by pawdrix:
After shopping for a few weeks looking at medium zooms and speaking with the guys at J&R, B&H and Adorama...I soon figured out that lenses that are trying to do too much, don't really do much of anything very well. I'm sure there are exceptions but none that I saw...or were recommended by salseman who stood to make a higher priced sale.
Ask around this site about the Tamron 28-75mm 2.8. Mucho bang for your buck.
After looking seriously at about 6 lenses, the guy from B&H summed it best when he said "...out of all the lenses you just looked at, this (the Tamron 28-75mm) is the only one I've never heard a single complaint about." Then he gave me a look like...this is a no brainer. |
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