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10/26/2005 10:14:59 AM · #1

I would like to have more opinions on my photo since I have only one comment and I think the score is a bit lower than i expected.

thx for the comments(none so far :))

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Message edited by author 2005-10-26 10:32:18.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

10/26/2005 10:33:59 AM · #2

still waiting... :(

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

10/26/2005 10:36:03 AM · #3

dahkota

Canon EOS-7D

10/26/2005 10:36:38 AM · #4

I didn't vote the challenge but for me your image has no sense of place. It's just 3 reflections. Maybe if what was being reflected was included in the image I would be able to relate to it more. The image is good for what it is and I probably would have given you a 5. Just my opinion, take it for what its worth. About $.02...

Philos

Canon EOS-30D

10/26/2005 10:41:02 AM · #5

Left comment

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

10/26/2005 10:41:35 AM · #6

Originally posted by dahkota:

That was the whole idea,not to include de reflection source.Well...maybe I would done better in the "What" challenge :))

hokie

Nikon D2X

10/26/2005 10:41:46 AM · #7

Hi Giorgio:-)

I think the main drawback to your reflection shot is that it does not show what it is reflecting and the overall shot lacks direction.

Your shot falls into that netherworld of not being clear enough to inform the viewer of what they are seeing and not being abstract and interesting enough to stand on its merit without reference.

Perhaps a subject or main focal point would have help to strengthen the photo. If you notice the three highest scoring photos in the challenge had strong subjects, a great sense of focus and depth of field and good contrast (either color or black and white can provide nice balanced contrast or point of detail).

Anyway, hope this helps some :-)

10/26/2005 10:47:09 AM · #8

It fits the challenge and is technically fine.
However, compositionally it lacks a focus, nothing leads my eye thru the image, it is, umm, boring.
Go look at some calendars or coffee table art books, or even the top finishing photos here from past challenges. If your image looks like it belongs on a calendar, then it will do well. If not, then you will get low scores. Unless it is an abstract challenge or something like the rubber ducky challenge.
Most comments will be on teh best and worst images, and most comments will be about technical qualities (focus, exposure, etc). Those are easy coments to make - black and white items we can all pretty much agree on. The rest, well, that is a matter or opinin, taste, etc.
While generally speaking, the movie 'Gigli' is the one of the worst movies ever made. Those that made it probably disagree, and would argue all day about it. I'm sure there are fans of hte movie. But the public have voted it down. (not that your image is in the same class as Gigli)

My suggestion is to get a book on Photographic composition and study it. I did. My average score jumped a full 1/2 point, and I have replaced 3 of my 4 top pics, broken the 6 barrier and generally cahnged the kinds of comments I get, just from 1 book.

I am still looking for the next book, the one on how to win ribbons ;)

Message edited by author 2005-10-26 10:47:37.

10/26/2005 10:53:30 AM · #9

Hi!

Since you're talking about the reflexion pictures, I just wanted to ask: do you think that my image scored as bad as it did because it's a bad, boring picture or because people didn't realize it's a reflexion (left a comment with the details)? I got lots of 1 and 2 and I really think it's not thaaaaat baaad! Thanks!

Giorgio, macar tu ai avut un scor mai mare ca al meu :-))) ai 7 pozitii in avantaj !

10/26/2005 10:57:01 AM · #10

Originally posted by bteodorescu:

It does not look like a reflection to me. So it 'does not meet challenge' and will be scored accordingly. Otherwise not a bad photo, but nothing compelling either.

10/26/2005 11:01:12 AM · #11

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Originally posted by bteodorescu:
Hi!

Since you're talking about the reflexion pictures, I just wanted to ask: do you think that my image scored as bad as it did because it's a bad, boring picture or because people didn't realize it's a reflexion (left a comment with the details)? I got lots of 1 and 2 and I really think it's not thaaaaat baaad! Thanks!

It does not look like a reflection to me. So it 'does not meet challenge' and will be scored accordingly. Otherwise not a bad photo, but nothing compelling either.

This isn't an arch that you can see through, it's an arch-shaped window and all you see inside it's the reflexion of what was going on behind me. You can notice this by looking at the right down corner...
I thought it was realy obvious...I guess not....

10/26/2005 11:05:01 AM · #12

My Entry

A comment or 2 suggested it might be better without the child. While this is not fully edited, you get teh compositional idea. Which is/was better?

Alternative Crop

10/26/2005 11:05:41 AM · #13

Originally posted by bteodorescu:

Citeste si tu ce raspunsuri am primit pentru ca, cred ca vor fi de folos pe mai departe.Cat despre temele viitoare poate ne ajutam reciproc :)))

10/26/2005 11:06:48 AM · #14

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

My Entry

A comment or 2 suggested it might be better without the child. While this is not fully edited, you get teh compositional idea. Which is/was better?

Alternative Crop

I like it better with the child, looks more "alive"

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

10/26/2005 11:07:07 AM · #15

Originally posted by bteodorescu:

One thing I didn't like (although i didn't see this one in voting), is the rest of the people in the picture. Extraneous things like this give the picture a "snapshot" quality. I do think it does deserve more than a 4.1 though...

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Nikon

10/26/2005 11:08:25 AM · #16

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

My Entry

A comment or 2 suggested it might be better without the child. While this is not fully edited, you get teh compositional idea. Which is/was better?

Alternative Crop

IMHO the one with the child is much better.Nice composition and i like the DOF too :)

ShaneBlake

Nikon D7100

10/26/2005 11:08:48 AM · #17

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

A comment or 2 suggested it might be better without the child. While this is not fully edited, you get teh compositional idea. Which is/was better?

as a dad of a toddler, i'd have left my son in a photo like this, but since it's not my kid in this one, i'd say crop. the child destracts from the reflection too much...

10/26/2005 11:09:58 AM · #18

Giorgio, macar tu ai avut un scor mai mare ca al meu :-))) ai 7 pozitii in avantaj ! [/quote]

Citeste si tu ce raspunsuri am primit pentru ca, cred ca vor fi de folos pe mai departe.Cat despre temele viitoare poate ne ajutam reciproc :))) [/quote]

am citit. stiu ca nu sunt specialista, dar chiar nu ma gandeam ca o sa am un scor asa mic.
cat despre temele viitoare...o sa fie cam greu sa ne ajutam "live", dar putem discuta pe net :-))

10/26/2005 11:11:55 AM · #19

Originally posted by bteodorescu:

Giorgio, macar tu ai avut un scor mai mare ca al meu :-))) ai 7 pozitii in avantaj !

Citeste si tu ce raspunsuri am primit pentru ca, cred ca vor fi de folos pe mai departe.Cat despre temele viitoare poate ne ajutam reciproc :))) [/quote]

am citit. stiu ca nu sunt specialista, dar chiar nu ma gandeam ca o sa am un scor asa mic.
cat despre temele viitoare...o sa fie cam greu sa ne ajutam "live", dar putem discuta pe net :-)) [/quote]

What!? I can't tell if i should report this post or not! So are you calling us all out, or saying we're the best photogaphers you've ever seen, and the check is in the mail?

10/26/2005 11:13:37 AM · #20

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by bteodorescu:

This isn't an arch that you can see through, it's an arch-shaped window and all you see inside it's the reflexion of what was going on behind me. You can notice this by looking at the right down corner...
I thought it was realy obvious...I guess not....

One thing I didn't like (although i didn't see this one in voting), is the rest of the people in the picture. Extraneous things like this give the picture a "snapshot" quality. I do think it does deserve more than a 4.1 though...

It was kind of snapshot, since I took this on the coffee break of a conference I was attending, so I didn't have enough time to wait for the people to leave. So this was the best I could do ....

10/26/2005 11:18:21 AM · #21

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Originally posted by bteodorescu:
Giorgio, macar tu ai avut un scor mai mare ca al meu :-))) ai 7 pozitii in avantaj !

Citeste si tu ce raspunsuri am primit pentru ca, cred ca vor fi de folos pe mai departe.Cat despre temele viitoare poate ne ajutam reciproc :)))

10/26/2005 11:22:43 AM · #22

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

am citit. stiu ca nu sunt specialista, dar chiar nu ma gandeam ca o sa am un scor asa mic.
cat despre temele viitoare...o sa fie cam greu sa ne ajutam "live", dar putem discuta pe net :-)) [/quote]

What!? I can't tell if i should report this post or not! So are you calling us all out, or saying we're the best photogaphers you've ever seen, and the check is in the mail? [/quote]

In English:
1.Giorgio, macar tu ai avut un scor mai mare ca al meu :-))) ai 7 pozitii in avantaj ! means: Giorgio at least u had a better score than I did, 7 positions higher.

2.Citeste si tu ce raspunsuri am primit pentru ca, cred ca vor fi de folos pe mai departe.Cat despre temele viitoare poate ne ajutam reciproc :))) means: You should read the reply posts because I think they r very helpfull in yhe future.As of the future challanges we could help eachother.

3.am citit. stiu ca nu sunt specialista, dar chiar nu ma gandeam ca o sa am un scor asa mic.
cat despre temele viitoare...o sa fie cam greu sa ne ajutam "live", dar putem discuta pe net :-)) means: I've read them.I know i'm not a specialyst but i didn't thought that my score would be so low.Concerning the future challenges it will be hard to help each other out live(bteodorescu-belgium and myself-Romania, 2 different countryes), but we can talk through the interenet("net").

no spellcheck :P

Message edited by author 2005-10-26 11:24:20.

10/26/2005 11:25:41 AM · #23

In English:
1.Giorgio, macar tu ai avut un scor mai mare ca al meu :-))) ai 7 pozitii in avantaj ! means: Giorgio at least u had a better score than I did, 7 positions higher.

2.Citeste si tu ce raspunsuri am primit pentru ca, cred ca vor fi de folos pe mai departe.Cat despre temele viitoare poate ne ajutam reciproc :))) means: You should read the reply posts because I think they r very helpfull in yhe future.As of the future challanges we could help eachother.

3.am citit. stiu ca nu sunt specialista, dar chiar nu ma gandeam ca o sa am un scor asa mic.
cat despre temele viitoare...o sa fie cam greu sa ne ajutam "live", dar putem discuta pe net :-)) means: I've read them.I know i'm not a specialyst but i didn't thought that my score would be so low.Concerning the future challenges it will be hard to help each other out live(bteodorescu-belgium and myself-Romania, 2 different countryes), but we can talk through the interenet("net"). [/quote]

thanks Giorgio, for the translation. we should teach them romanian...it will be fun :-))))

10/26/2005 11:29:38 AM · #24

thanks Giorgio, for the translation. we should teach them romanian...it will be fun :-)))) [/quote]

That's a wonderfull idea. We teach u romanian and u guys teach us the way of digital photography. lol