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Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

10/25/2005 03:42:13 PM · #26

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Originally posted by frisca:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I can't imagine why it woudl be disqualified, but i'm sure you probably got bit by the definition of 'major element' somewhere somehow...

If you read the first post, he says he was DQ'd for spot editing. This is just my personal opinion, but I usually try to read a post before I respond to it. Otherwise you risk looking like you're pushing an agenda. But that's just my personal, subjective opinion.

That often includes removing a major element. I have seen 'major element' issues that are all over the board is why I brought it up.

Yeah , I thought Dr. Jones DQ was bs. It should be changed to a major element of the intended photograph. I studio shot with a light that obviously wasn't intended to be in the photo was a little nit picky to me.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

10/25/2005 03:44:28 PM · #27

Originally posted by MeThoS:

So, then the SC gets to decide what the "intended" picture of each dq request is. Fun.

10/25/2005 03:46:35 PM · #28

Maybe I shouldn't have drug this into the forums, but I was very angry that the photo got DQ'd. It was doing well in the vites and I was really excited about it.

I thought I had pushed the "artwork" rule a bit, and I would have accepted a DQ on that matter. But, I worked hard on this submission just to have it yanked out from under me, made me really angry.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

10/25/2005 03:51:11 PM · #29

Originally posted by ursula:

How did you get the background white except for the two areas at the bottom of the wrench right next to the wrench using only brightness/contrast? In the original these two areas blend into the background, whereas in your finished version they are rather delimited. Using only brightness/contrast on the whole picture, how could you get it to be that way?

Major changes in the contrast brought out those shadows. I wasn't able to eliminate those shadows without splotching the rest of the background, so I left them. I admit, I would have loved to spot editted them out, but they are there.

frisca

Nikon D70

10/25/2005 03:53:06 PM · #30

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Well, we are very sorry your photo was DQ, but what is the answer to the questions above regarding the white background?

alanfreed

Nikon Z9

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

10/25/2005 03:55:03 PM · #31

If I look at the shot you submitted, and tilt my monitor back a bit, the illegal editing looks obvious, to be honest. There are cut out features there that couldn't have been done legally, in my opinion.

10/25/2005 03:55:38 PM · #32

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Major changes in the contrast brought out those shadows.

Contrast alone couldn't have done it. You can drag the contrast slider to every position from one end of the spectrum to the other, and those hard shapes don't appear. Can you elaborate?

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

10/25/2005 03:57:07 PM · #33

Originally posted by scalvert:

Well, since you already posted the shot publicly...

You indicated that you made the background white using only brightness and contrast levels. However, your entry had hard edges in the previously smooth background (emphasized here) that appear to be the result of spot editing. It doesn't seem possible for global changes to brightness and contrast to leave these hard edges.

That took, what 5 minutes? I worked on those levels for at least an hour.

alanfreed

Nikon Z9

10/25/2005 03:58:30 PM · #34

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

That took, what 5 minutes? I worked on those levels for at least an hour.

Then prove to us how this was possible in basic editing...? You still haven't explained how this could have been done.

ursula

Fujifilm X-T2

Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS

10/25/2005 04:00:00 PM · #35

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by scalvert:
Well, since you already posted the shot publicly...

You indicated that you made the background white using only brightness and contrast levels. However, your entry had hard edges in the previously smooth background (emphasized here) that appear to be the result of spot editing. It doesn't seem possible for global changes to brightness and contrast to leave these hard edges.

That took, what 5 minutes? I worked on those levels for at least an hour.

Trying (without success) to replicate your background with the grey areas next to the wrench took a lot more than 5 minutes.

10/25/2005 04:00:11 PM · #36

Originally posted by alansfreed:

I do that and I see stuff I would have spot-editted out if I had been able to. If I'm going to spot-edit, I'm going flawless.

10/25/2005 04:00:32 PM · #37

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

That took, what 5 minutes?

Um, no... I played with it for quite a while, and I wasn't the only one who tried. Can you replicate it without spot editing? Feel free to take another hour...

10/25/2005 04:07:34 PM · #38

Crop
Image adjust autolevels
Brightness +~37
Contrast +~22

Took me two minutes and I get a solid white background.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

10/25/2005 04:09:04 PM · #39

The more posts I see without an answer, the more I believe the SC is doing their job far better than I would expect for, what, volunteers?

Stagolee

Kodak Easyshare C180

Canon EF 50mm f1.2L

10/25/2005 04:10:52 PM · #40

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

The more posts I see without an answer, the more I believe the SC is doing their job far better than I would expect for, what, volunteers?

They do a fantastic job and it's great to see them catch people out. But I still think when people get notified they should be told the exact reason in detail.

10/25/2005 04:11:06 PM · #41

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Crop
Image adjust autolevels
Brightness +~37
Contrast +~22

Took me two minutes and I get a solid white background.

If you want you can send it to me and I'll try. I routinely drop out white backgrounds.

Mick

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

10/25/2005 04:13:37 PM · #42

I can't be sure because I haven't seen the original photo, but judging from the small photos on your web site, I would say it appears to have been spot edited.

Are you sure that you uploaded the correct file? Maybe you accidently uploaded a version that you were experimenting with.

10/25/2005 04:13:54 PM · #43

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

The more posts I see without an answer, the more I believe the SC is doing their job far better than I would expect for, what, volunteers?

I agree. Just seems that some times the law around here is black and white. And high contrast to boot.

10/25/2005 04:14:13 PM · #44

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Took me two minutes and I get a solid white background.

I tried the same settings. The background still has tone, the wrench is washed out (as expected with so much more brightness than contrast), and the artifacts in your entry do not appear.

10/25/2005 04:16:01 PM · #45

Originally posted by MeThoS:

Just seems that some times the law around here is black and white.

Good. It's the gray areas that cause problems. ;-)

Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

10/25/2005 04:16:55 PM · #46

Take my photo on //www.polishedtool.com/archives/1-Welcome-to-Polished-Tool.html#extended the original and crop it to aprroximately 4x6 dimensions.

Image adjust autolevels
Brightness +~37
Contrast +~22 - +~30

muckpond

Nikon D200

10/25/2005 04:19:22 PM · #47

Originally posted by keegbow:

But I still think when people get notified they should be told the exact reason in detail.

he was notified why it was dq'd. this entire thread contains many references to the reason it was dq'd. i believe we've provided plenty of detail in this case.

10/25/2005 04:20:09 PM · #48

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Is the this the original sized photo? I need a bigger file than that little on on your site.

10/25/2005 04:23:07 PM · #49

I'm a little confused myself. So are you sayin ghe lasso'd the white area and spot edited that?

If he did, he should be DQ'd for not selecting the whole outline of the wrench and not feathering the selection!! ;o)