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09/15/2005 08:33:04 PM · #26 |
He's actually a really good photographer...he has good gear, it can take a beating.
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09/15/2005 08:40:00 PM · #27 |
Everybody treats there tools differently, some baby it, some use unitl they wear it out and then by new. I remember just starting out and looking at my photographer friend who had been in the biz forever trash his gear to get the shot. But he earned enough to take care of it.
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09/15/2005 09:09:36 PM · #28 |
I've worked with two different professionals and to be honest they both throw thier equipment around. they don't have time or the desire to put the camera's in their respective cases to just pull them out on the fly again.
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10/20/2005 01:29:35 AM · #29 |
Hi guys, happened upon this site linking to my video, hope I could clear up some misconceptions.
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"this guy has way to much money or they are not his cameras".
well, I do not have way too much money, I bought most of my equipment used and at good prices. And yes all of it is my equipment.
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"The term "more money then sense comes to mind"."
Why? The purchases were all justified. I just have better access than most.
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"The satisfaction I take from his cavalier attitude to his disgustingly expensive bag of gear is that he's probably got a similar atitude to his photography...
...that is, it's crap! "
I've done pretty well, but photography is subjective. Feel free to check out some of my work over at
www.sportsshooter.com/pshizzy and then make an informed opinion.
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"That really is how a lot of pros handle their equipment. "
Yup, actually, I baby some of my stuff more than most pro's. I still actually have my 300 2.8 hood, and the leather cap for it.
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"Honestly, it doesn't look that bad. Of course, I'd like to see him switch lenses in a hurry."
That's why I carry multiple bodies. I had to use 4 at last years Suns-Mav's playoffs.
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"That's disgusting. Really is. I hate capitalizm.
How is this an example of capitalism? I only bought what I needed. If you had the opportunity to cover the NFL, NBA, World championship boxing, and other events, you would buy the NECESSARY equipment. If you didn't, why would you bother even going.
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"Well I thought he was funny."
Thank you. I did this to prove to someone that they were underutilizing their bag's holding potential. How each person packs their bag is their own thing, but to be judged as a photographer, and as a person solely on that, is pretty ignorant. You seem to understand this better than most.
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"i wouldn't be surprised if all that gear crammed in that bag - just sat right there in the bag, on the desk."
Um, no. I carry most of that gear on a regular basis, as I cover the NBA and NFL seasonally, as well as doing other regional area sporting events. I've done this a little over a year, and have had some great times. Mostly because I had the NECESSARY equipment with me. I admit, sometimes I overpack, but when I do, I often lend out a body or lens to someone who needs it, so I don't mind the extra weight. I'm young, I can handle it.
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"people who use gear every day for their jobs will treat it like that, if it breaks theyll get a new one...but pro gear is supposed to take some abuse....more power to that dude if i can fit all that in a small place"
Thanks man. I do not try to break my gear, but I understand that when you buy professional equipment, you can expect it to last. I've had my 1D body endure collisions with players, the floor, weather, and yes, surviving being packed in my bag. As for my cheaper bodies, they were my first bodies, and if and when they blow up, my only hope is they had a good run for a camera.
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"holy cow...
how do you move around with that much stuff in your bag?"
Actually, when I'm shooting video as well, I'm often carrying this, as well as a video camera bag, complete with tripod and sound equipment. I can do it because I will myself to. It's not an easy job, but I love what I do, so I'm happy to do it.
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"He's actually a really good photographer...he has good gear, it can take a beating."
Thanks man.
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"Everybody treats there tools differently, some baby it, some use unitl they wear it out and then by new."
Exactly. To each their own. I used to baby my gear, but as time and events pass, you realize it just becomes a problem. Sure, I could get a bigger bag, but the extra bulk could prove a problem when carrying video equipment.
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"I've worked with two different professionals and to be honest they both throw thier equipment around"
Ya, I've seen some things that would almost make me cry being doing to 400 2.8s. But hey, if you gotta do it to get the shot, so be it. After all, it's the photographer, not the gear.
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Anyhow, I just wanted to say thanks to all those that defended me or at least decided not to judge me. I hope that those that did judge could at least get to know me a little better before making blanket statements about me.
Hope to post here a bit more and be a contributing member of the community, that is if you'll have me.
Max |
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10/20/2005 02:43:05 AM · #30 |
PShizzy,
Welcome to DPC! Awesomely funny that you found it and commented on the comments...hehehe
I think some here would cringe if they saw WHERE I shoot most of the time too! (uh oh cats out of the bag now...) I do have to admit I make it a point to travel much lighter tho. I don't even hesitate to take my camera to White Sands where the sand is fine and the wind never stops. But that's for fun. My camera spends it's life in and around horses which never stop kicking up dust and they quite literally runs circles around me so it doesn't matter which way the wind blows...I get it and so does the camera. In case no one guessed yet I shoot horse shows and events for a living and I'll have to hand it to my 70-200 2.8. I'ts one tough lens. (I wrecked a consumer grade lens in less than a year from dirt getting in and I took good care of it. I'll never buy less than an "L" again) I can't complain about the ol' 10D either. They don't do bad in light rain either. I do generally try to avoid setting them down in the dirt tho'. I can usually find a rock or log for that.
As for the challenges....have fun, it's educational lots of the time, it's totally addictive but I learned not to take it too seriously or I'd have to give up shooting for a living if I were to judge my skill by some of my challenge scores....
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10/20/2005 02:43:49 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by PShizzy:
Hope to post here a bit more and be a contributing member of the community, that is if you'll have me.
Max |
Be delighted to have you :-) The more working pros we have in here (or former working pros) the better, is my position.
Robt.
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10/20/2005 02:57:13 AM · #32 |
Thanks for the warm welcome. I hope that people understand my intention was not to retort in a rude manner, but rather to clarify a little bit about myself, my work, and who I am.
I'm not saying that one should or should not baby their gear. In fact, I remember cringing when my 10D took it's first drop. I've since realized that no matter what you do, your gear has a lifespan unto itself. I know many people who can't even get their new lenses to work out of the box, while mine may appear nigh indestructible at times.
Truth of the matter is that gear safety is one of the last things on my mind when I am at an event. First and foremost is my task at hand, and the safety of the players and others (in the situation of setting up remotes and lights).
I felt bad at first seeing my video being put up here as a mockery, but to each their own. I know I'm happy with my equipment, my work, and myself. And in the end, that's all that matters.
Max |
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10/20/2005 02:58:57 AM · #33 |
Welcome Max! Just saw your profile page on your website. Sweet photos. I've got lots to learn :)
Sit back and enjoy the ride :) |
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10/20/2005 03:08:14 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by PShizzy:
Thanks for the warm welcome. I hope that people understand my intention was not to retort in a rude manner, but rather to clarify a little bit about myself, my work, and who I am.
I'm not saying that one should or should not baby their gear. In fact, I remember cringing when my 10D took it's first drop. I've since realized that no matter what you do, your gear has a lifespan unto itself. I know many people who can't even get their new lenses to work out of the box, while mine may appear nigh indestructible at times.
Truth of the matter is that gear safety is one of the last things on my mind when I am at an event. First and foremost is my task at hand, and the safety of the players and others (in the situation of setting up remotes and lights).
I felt bad at first seeing my video being put up here as a mockery, but to each their own. I know I'm happy with my equipment, my work, and myself. And in the end, that's all that matters.
Max |
Look, Max... The thing of it is, without context that video is absolutely hysterical and/or disgusting; it's like a sort of a Rorsach Test, it mirrors the mental outlook of whoever views it. Obviously had nothing to do with YOU, 'cuz nobody had a clue who "you" are. Your response in this htread is very reasoned and temperate, even humorous. Don't worry about it.
As for the packing end of things, I was a working pro in Southern California for 25 years. My specialty was architectural photography and large-format landscape work, but I did some jack-of-all-trades stuff too, including being on staff at a couple of magazines and, for two years, shooting SD Chargers games in the Fouts/Alworth/Coryell glory years. I know exactly what you're talking about re: packing. Who has time for that? And in all my years of working I only ever functionally damaged ONE lens, if you don't count the time my entire tripod with Sinar-P mounted went over the cliff at Big Sur in a storm...
(The damaged lens was a drop, btw, and it landed mount-first and screwed up the bayonet mount. Wasn't a big deal to fix, and the glass was fine.)
Robt.
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10/20/2005 04:24:23 AM · #35 |
Some years ago I dropped a 50mm Mamiya lens in the fuel storage pool of a nuclear reactor while working.
I suppose by now it's destined for Yucca Mountain...
P.S. I thought the reaction to the video was the really funny part. The video was not that bad.
Message edited by author 2005-10-20 04:25:55.
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10/20/2005 07:38:51 AM · #36 |
welcome, max!
i really appreciated the video, as it validated my choice to buy a mini-trekker!
here's max's link: pshizzy
cool stuff! |
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10/20/2005 07:53:17 AM · #37 |
PShizzy
I hope I didn't upset you to much by posting this, I saw it on another site and thought it was funny
my original comment wash more of a throw away line, to put some text in the post and to get a reaction
I'm not a pro photographer but I drive professionally (18 years)
and my first vehicle was detailed twice a year and put through a car wash about 2 X a week and serviced by the book (more than by the book)
while the one I have now is over 2 years old and has been washed 3 times, serviced once and topped up the oil 2 times and it will last me just as long as the first one (it will be serviced next week as I'm off work at the moment and and can get it to the service center)
hope to see some of your work here in future challenges
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10/20/2005 12:55:27 PM · #38 |
Well, I'm not too happy bout being called a fool, especially when I wasn't a member of the community so that I could defend myself. I would have also liked it if you had posted a link to the forum topic, so that people could see the context of the situation and get to know me better before making statements.
Anyhow, water under the bridge. I see the challenges, and depending on my schedule, I'll see what I can do about entering.
Max |
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10/20/2005 08:14:04 PM · #39 |
Ach, you had a cold reception. Dunno about calling anyone a fool for the way they pack their bag, that seems a bit harsh even to me, despite the way i love to judge people prematurely. Sure slapping equipment around makes me cringe, but if it's someone's own, it's up to him how he treats it. Besides, we've all seen these so-called (american) "pros" dealing with their big whites.
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10/20/2005 08:34:18 PM · #40 |
The more SportsShooter people we have the better. Welcome aboard. :)
(As for the fool line, they call me and deapee that 10x a day no hard feelings...)
M
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10/20/2005 09:01:02 PM · #41 |
I don't know those SS guys are really good at what they do!! That just means I am going to have to step up my game a little bit. (aside from the fact that I have't entered any challenges yet)
Actually truth be known I have been hanging out at Sports Shooter for about a month now admiring the work and waiting to get my 70-200 2.8 should be here by the end of this week.
Glad to see you PShizzy!! |
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