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10/17/2005 04:38:52 PM · #101 |
I found this example of a 'grainy' picture in the weather challenge of a couple of years back, I think it gives the image a really atmospheric feel
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10/17/2005 05:03:33 PM · #102 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I think I'm excited about this challenge. I'm going to accept it as a real "post-processing" challenge, but why not? Post-processing has become just as important a part of photography as the darkroom was before. Do you think Ansel or any other stalwart of photography didn't know their way around a few darkroom tricks?
OTOH, the best post-processing techniques can't overcome a poor photograph. So here we are with a nice challenge with a different taste. The objectives:
A) Take a good photograph which has the proper subject and mood which is open to enhancement by grain.
B) Use your PS skill to add the right amount, texture, style and placement of the grain so that A becomes fulfilled.
I'm excited to take a whack at it. |
'nuff said :) |
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10/17/2005 05:24:19 PM · #103 |
| Make a grainy picture about grain. Kind of a dirty 30's... |
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10/17/2005 05:43:33 PM · #104 |
Originally posted by lenkphotos:
How about everyone just posting the best photo you can, using your personal interpretion of the word "grain", ...and just let it up to the voters to understand your interpretation. If they don't get it, just PM them and rip 'em to shreds... |
uh, yeah, that'll get you their vote.
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10/17/2005 05:45:13 PM · #105 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I'm going to take a picture of a wheat field, at night, at low ISO. I'll make it a long exposure so I can run naked and really 'streak' through the field. Then I'll smear chocolate all over my face and eat a severed fish head while sticking my face in a fish tank. Then I'll offer a random draw for a free one year membership to anybody scoring my shot a ten. |
They pay $100 a head to watch that off-braodway. ;o)
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10/17/2005 05:49:48 PM · #106 |
| Assuming that noise and grain are synonymous for this challenge (as I personally would find any "message" about wheat grain, or any other organic grain, rather boring and unemotional), how does one go about creating a grainy picture in Photoshop? Sorry, I am a PS neophyte. |
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10/17/2005 06:06:49 PM · #107 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I have another question...sorry, but has anyone seen a grainy image do well (top ten) in any recent challenges?
I've looked for an example but with this dial-up connection it takes forever to browse the past challenges... |
Not too recent, but top ten
An integral part of the message and no photoshop filters... but grain thru contrast
Message edited by author 2005-10-17 18:08:55. |
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10/17/2005 06:14:10 PM · #108 |
| Man I am scared to even enter this challenge! I wish that someone would clarify the description once and for all. I don't think I am going to enter a "grainy" photo that I work hard on to just get low votes because the Corn People doesn't think it meets the challenge and vice versa. I am going to sit this one out I think. |
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10/17/2005 06:26:34 PM · #109 |
Originally posted by mandyturner:
Man I am scared to even enter this challenge! I wish that someone would clarify the description once and for all. I don't think I am going to enter a "grainy" photo that I work hard on to just get low votes because the Corn People doesn't think it meets the challenge and vice versa. I am going to sit this one out I think. |
Oooh...Children of the Corn remake! That could work! |
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10/17/2005 06:28:02 PM · #110 |
I hope you don't sit this out for a few "Corn People"! Personally, I will accept either interpretation, and I think you would do very well in this challenge
Message edited by author 2005-10-17 18:28:38. |
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10/17/2005 06:28:21 PM · #111 |
| I had a good idea and didn't even know it!! |
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10/17/2005 06:29:10 PM · #112 |
Originally posted by mandyturner:
I had a good idea and didn't even know it!! |
Do you want me to edit my reply before Joey picks up on it? |
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10/17/2005 06:33:03 PM · #113 |
| Na, thats ok. Joeys version and mine would look like two completely different pictures! His being the better! |
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10/17/2005 06:36:20 PM · #114 |
Originally posted by mandyturner:
Na, thats ok. Joeys version and mine would look like two completely different pictures! His being the better! |
=)
Did you mean "higher scoring"? |
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10/17/2005 06:38:52 PM · #115 |
Originally posted by rikki11:
it seems like this sounds like a free study with film grain in mind.... hmmm... am i off base here? |
thats my thoughts too |
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10/17/2005 06:41:02 PM · #116 |
Originally posted by KaDi:
YOUR LOGIC:
1. Digital cameras do not use film.
2. Grain is an artifact of film processing.
3. Therefore, digital cameras can not produce grain.
Conclusion, any digital image entered in the current challenge which attempt to reproduce the effects of film grain will get a low vote.
Your Logic on steroids:
1. Digital cameras do not use film.
2. ISO is a standard measure of the light capabilities of film.
3. Therefore, digital cameras can not be set to an ISO rating.
Conclusion: Anyone submitting a digital image and claiming any ISO rating should be DQ'd since it is impossible to achieve with a digital camera.
Now that is logic at its most nonsensical! |
The two logic you presented are not equals, the word ISO is used in film axactly as it is used in digital. Correct me if I am wrong but I've never heard the word grain used in digital as a substitution for the word noise. |
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10/17/2005 06:41:05 PM · #117 |
Originally posted by KaDi:
Originally posted by mandyturner:
Na, thats ok. Joeys version and mine would look like two completely different pictures! His being the better! |
=)
Did you mean "higher scoring"? |
YES He could take a picture of a terd and get a higher score than me. I think we should take him down. |
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10/17/2005 06:53:33 PM · #118 |
Originally posted by samanwar:
The two logic you presented are not equals, the word ISO is used in film axactly as it is used in digital. Correct me if I am wrong but I've never heard the word grain used in digital as a substitution for the word noise. |
*I* don't think that grain and noise *are* the same thing...It was described above (by GeneralE, I think) that grain is a granular effect and noise is (usually) an unwanted color shift in the pixels. For example, newspaper pictures appear "grainy"--doesn't matter whether the photographer used film or digital...it's an artifact of the printing process. |
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10/17/2005 07:09:14 PM · #119 |
most of my pics have grain anyway. a recently edited one.
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10/17/2005 07:11:43 PM · #120 |
Thanks Charmayne for posting that. Cool image, and definitely grainy.
Hopefully I can ask what may be a simple question without too much backlash... ;^) How does grain help deliver a "Message"? Is grain usually associated with a moody or sepia type image? I really don't know - I've not really messed around with adding grain. Perhaps I should Google it and see what I come up with.
Anyone care to enlighten me on this? (I'm sure I'm not alone in wondering). Thanks.
Originally posted by CeeDeez:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I have another question...sorry, but has anyone seen a grainy image do well (top ten) in any recent challenges?
I've looked for an example but with this dial-up connection it takes forever to browse the past challenges... |
Not too recent, but top ten
An integral part of the message and no photoshop filters... but grain thru contrast |
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10/17/2005 07:26:11 PM · #121 |
Holy cow. My first thought was wood grain! Guess I should be on a shop forum.
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10/17/2005 08:16:49 PM · #122 |
| So this challenge can be a photo of anything as long as it is "grainy"??? |
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10/17/2005 08:21:59 PM · #123 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by lenkphotos:
How about everyone just posting the best photo you can, using your personal interpretion of the word "grain", ...and just let it up to the voters to understand your interpretation. If they don't get it, just PM them and rip 'em to shreds... |
uh, yeah, that'll get you their vote. |
The tongue-in-cheek was implied. If you've been around DPC for awhile, you'll realize that this "rip 'em to shreds" is often what happens - more often, however, in the forums ...after the challenge, as opposed to PMing during...
My point, of course, was that people get too hung up with what they deem to be THE TRUE MEANING of a challenge topic. "Grain" can mean many many things. Why not just try to understand (maybe even empathize with) the artist. So long as the image strikes a chord with me, and I can imagine (visualize) how the photographer is expressing "grain", I wouldn't penalize it for not matching my interpretation of that word.
Maybe that's THE TRUE MEANING of DPC: learning to stretch our minds.
(...now what was that emoticon for tongue-in-cheek?)
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10/17/2005 08:40:21 PM · #124 |
Originally posted by cdcootie:
Holy cow. My first thought was wood grain! Guess I should be on a shop forum. |
This is part of what I love about this site and challenges! Everybody looks at the new challenge for the week and it's almost like an ink-blot test! Like, what's the first thing you think of when you see the challenge is "grain"! LOL! its great because so many are so different than my first thought! I think it really helps me to open my mind and if you or I let it hopefully broaden your/my creative horizons! |
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10/17/2005 09:48:20 PM · #125 |
Okay...now I am totally confused. When I read the challenge I interpreted it to mean the grain as in wheat etc. I also saw it could mean grain as in wood/texture.
But after reading thread I am not sure if my interpretation would be met well with the voters.
Can somebody please summarise what would be classed as an exceptable interpretation of this challenge.
Grrr...and here I was hoping for once that we would get a challenge that is clear in its description and not cryptic.
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