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10/08/2005 05:59:17 PM · #1 |
I was DQ from the challenge because I violated the selective editing rule. This is OK in that my score was below a five. Anyway I will explain what I did to this image. I am asking your opinion; do you think I should have been DQ for the editing I have done.
I took the original image used the elliptical marquee tool selected the blue portion of the sign and then did an inverse selection. The next step I choose Layers, New Fill Layer, Gradient Style, reflected with a 180-degree angle.
Resized and submitted. What do you think?
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10/08/2005 06:02:05 PM · #2 |
| Just for clarification - it wasn't the selective editing that was the problem since this was an advanced challenge. It was more the "However, using any editing tools to duplicate, create, or move major elements of your photograph is not permitted" that was the issue. That's a pretty major element there. |
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10/08/2005 06:04:58 PM · #3 |
I did not move just covered :)
Message edited by author 2005-10-08 18:05:24. |
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10/08/2005 06:05:33 PM · #4 |
yeah, pretty major element. The photo looks more like a graphic image than a photo. as it probably is. I could easily recreate this "photo" in photoshop without using the original photo whatsoever. Not only did you remove the background, but that gradiant was completely computer generated. Yep. You crossed the line. But we live and we learn. Keep entering challenges, and making those beautiful images.
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10/08/2005 06:06:32 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by PhotoRyno:
I did not move just covered :) |
Same difference, anyway it really isn't a photo anymore
Message edited by author 2005-10-09 18:28:28. |
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10/08/2005 06:11:53 PM · #6 |
| The rules state that "...using any editing tools to duplicate, create, or move major elements of your photograph is not permitted". The background gradient is a major element. So you used an editing tool to create a major element of your photo. That is why you were disqualified, IMO. |
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10/08/2005 06:12:51 PM · #7 |
Yes, I agree it does not look like a photo and is one of the reasons I entered it. At the time I was not (sure) if this violated the rules or not. Therefore I just entered. Like you have said, live and learn and of course keep entering.
Just one step closer to a ribbon.
Message edited by author 2005-10-08 18:14:15. |
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10/08/2005 06:20:58 PM · #8 |
NO NO.
What you should have done is printed out the gradient, cut a hole in it, displayed the original (or evan an edited version of it) on your monitor, and then taken a picture.
THEN you would be legal.
Pre-editing is O.K. you see, post editing is bad bad bad, shame on you.
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10/08/2005 06:23:37 PM · #9 |
That's such an obvious DQ, I guffawed when I saw it in the challenge. The fact you've posted for opinions on whether or not you deserved the DQ makes me guffaw once again. That's twice you've made me guffaw.
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10/09/2005 02:32:34 PM · #10 |
Well I guess if you did not guffaw so easily you could spend more time
taking ribbon winning photos.
Good luck and keep guffawing
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10/09/2005 06:25:15 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by PhotoRyno:
Well I guess if you did not guffaw so easily you could spend more time
taking ribbon winning photos.
Good luck and keep guffawing |
Ouch, now play fare. |
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10/09/2005 08:22:19 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by mpemberton:
Originally posted by PhotoRyno:
Well I guess if you did not guffaw so easily you could spend more time
taking ribbon winning photos.
Good luck and keep guffawing |
Ouch, now play fare. |
Why, Slippy didn't!
Deannda
I certainly wouldn't have been as nice as PhotoRyno if Slippy said something like that to me |
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10/09/2005 08:31:01 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by PhotoRyno:
Well I guess .... you could spend more time taking ribbon winning photos. |
*microphone sounds*
Pssshtttt
Pot, this is kettle, come in Kettle!
Message edited by author 2005-10-09 20:31:27.
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10/09/2005 08:36:01 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
Originally posted by PhotoRyno:
Well I guess .... you could spend more time taking ribbon winning photos. |
*microphone sounds*
Pssshtttt
Pot, this is kettle, come in Kettle! |
That may be so but Slippy, even with his own personal emoticons came off a little bit mean to me too. The person asked a legit question, I too, when I first saw the image in question, thought, "No way that's legal, wonder if they realize they made a mistake?"
Deannda
Overly sensative tonight, I could have used that day off yesterday |
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10/09/2005 08:48:56 PM · #15 |
*smile*
I understand - if Heida tells me (and she has) to shut up and go take more photos so I can get better, I do. If someone who hasn't shot a ribbon goes to tell me to "shoot a ribbon" that's sorta .... funny to me! :)
And you get your day off next week WITH US! :)
M
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10/09/2005 08:51:02 PM · #16 |
yup - i think that is grounds for a DQ.
edit to meantion now i have read the whole thread, i knew the image would be DQ'd also. It was so obvious that a major element had been changed.
Message edited by author 2005-10-09 20:54:33. |
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10/09/2005 09:00:34 PM · #17 |
I have not ever had a DQ, but I have got a Brown metal.
What really sucks is I tried. :)
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10/09/2005 09:02:11 PM · #18 |
looks like a graphic you can get online. oh wait, I am online. umm, nice photo (quick getaway......)
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10/09/2005 09:47:00 PM · #19 |
Man what a strange thread. I don't actually see where he is asking if it should be DQ or not. I think he was asking about the pic itself?
I would like to see what the original was and what you actually covered with your gradient tool.
It's a very clean road sign, with rivets in the middle to distinguish it from being a graphic. There is a little softness to the lettering, which could be in the making of the sign itself, and that lends very strongly to the graphic feel of the image.
The question that I want to ask is "What is the picture saying to me?" It is in a challenge called your corner of the world. It has a single element that is a sign. To me, that's not enough. A graphic has only one message. A picture has the power to say many things. By cutting the background out, you have robbed the picture of its ability to say anything more about your corner of the world. That sign, plus a road full of cars is something. That sign, plus an empty road is something. That sign, plus a few cars heading away from the viewer with lots of motion blur is something. That sign alone is basically a picture that has been made to look like it is not a photograph.
Can't see that having a positive effect on it in any way, especially in a photo contest. |
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10/09/2005 09:52:11 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by eschelar:
Man what a strange thread. I don't actually see where he is asking if it should be DQ or not. |
I think maybe you missed this part then?
Originally posted by PhotoRyno:
[...] I am asking your opinion; do you think I should have been DQ for the editing I have done.
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10/10/2005 12:38:25 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by PhotoRyno:
I did not move just covered :) |
Actually you created a new background, that is a major element and therefore against the rules. In general, removing, covering or hiding a major element is also likely to result in a DQ - chances are good you created something to cover the hole that the removed item would otherwise leave.... |
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10/10/2005 07:26:06 PM · #22 |
Wow, I almost never receive this many comments is a thread. I will try and explain myself a little better.
I do not have a problem with being DQ as I can see a major element has been removed, I made a mistake (just did not see at the time of submission) ___ hell I took a photo of an actual billboard for the billboard challenge. I have always made more money or have seen success learning from the mistakes in my life. I already see other ways I could have enhanced the photo
The comment I made to strikeslip was nothing personal, at least not on my part. A smart-ass remark always requires a smart-ass answer. I have been known to be a smart-ass J Just having fun. Luckily for me I am more of a smart ass verbally, it takes to much time to write it out. It keeps me out of trouble online.
My intention was not to offend
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10/11/2005 10:57:08 AM · #23 |
Woops, thanks for the reality check MK. Yeah, I did miss that.
That's what you get when you try to be helpful at 2:30am...
This place is too addictive :( |
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10/11/2005 11:11:36 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by PhotoRyno:
The comment I made to strikeslip was nothing personal, at least not on my part. A smart-ass remark always requires a smart-ass answer. I have been known to be a smart-ass J Just having fun. Luckily for me I am more of a smart ass verbally, it takes to much time to write it out. It keeps me out of trouble online.
My intention was not to offend |
Hey, no problem, I could tell you were just having fun, as was I. Pay no attention to Neuferland, she's just trying to stir stuff up. She's had a problem with me ever since my "Favourites" stunt.
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10/11/2005 11:41:11 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Hey, no problem, I could tell you were just having fun, as was I. Pay no attention to Neuferland, she's just trying to stir stuff up. She's had a problem with me ever since my "Favourites" stunt. |
slip! how dare you have fun? the unmitigated gall of some people. i bet you were caught running in church as a kid... or *GASP* laughing...
but to have fun on a site such as this? where we're all trying to be serious artsy-ish types... the nerve.
shame on you slippy. for shame...
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