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10/02/2005 07:23:03 PM · #1
I have a question I am a relatively new photographer. I am putting my heart and soul into learning this art and have the goal to become a proffessional photographer I plan on doing weddings and portraits to make money but I really enjoy abstract and artistic nudes. I own a fuji S5100 right now wich I know is not a proffessional grade camerra. I have recently been researching the newly released S9000 and it looks good to me. I am hoping to upgrade to a proffessional grade camerra within the next couple of months so that my learning curve can continue to grow. My question is this: Is the S9000 a pro-quality camerra or should I be looking else where? Bear in mind that money is a huge obstacle for me (notice that I am not a paying DPC'er yet, hope to be some day) I am a recent college grad and me and my wife are trying to get started so I am very limited on funds. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
10/02/2005 07:26:01 PM · #2
That's like a $700 camera. Get a used 300D kit and a cheap zoom lens. Build your equipment from there rather than getting the S9000 and having to build from scratch when you decide you really want to.

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10/02/2005 07:31:29 PM · #3
id second that. if you're gonna go professional, you at least have to have a digital SLR.

but remember the gear u have is secondary to the photos you take.
expensive gear is just to help you get photos that you might otherwise not be able to get.

Message edited by author 2005-10-02 19:36:09.
10/02/2005 10:58:35 PM · #4
It may not be "professional" for DSLR standards...
But I'm hoping it will be my next camera!!! It has everything I was hoping for!!

Message edited by author 2005-10-02 22:59:46.
10/02/2005 11:28:03 PM · #5
Problem I see with a DSLR at this point for you is that it involves lots of future expenditure to get the range that the S9000 would give you. Although not a "pro" camera it would likley be a good step towards that goal and give you something with quite a bit of range to learn. Most improtant thing would be for you to learn to use the manual features and not just shot on auto. Learn the mechanics and art of shooting that we all seek. By the time you mastered that it would be time to move up to a DSLR. The money making side of photography is a tough and competitive business. You will want to learn as much as possible before making the jump.

All IMHO of course.

Message edited by author 2005-10-02 23:36:14.
10/02/2005 11:33:38 PM · #6
I was leaning towards the S9000 when I sold my S5100. The more I thought about it, the less I liked it. So I spent the extra $300 and bought the Rebel XT. I think even with the kit lense it will probably take better quality pics than the Fuji. Don't get me wrong either. I still own a couple of Fuji cams and use them.
I figured if I kept pumping money into buying P&S cameras with integrated lenses everytime they come out with a new model, eventually I would've spent more than what it would cost to buy a nice DSLR and some good lenses.
For example: the S5100 sells for about $275 or less new. The S9000 sells for $699 on Amazon. Already I would've had about $1000 invested in something I'd never really get my money back out of. I did get my money back out of the Fuji. I paid $249 for it and sold it for $250.
Anyway, think about it awhile. Go look at the the XT or even Nikon. Nikon has a nice DSLR 6mp or 8mp set-up for around $800 I think. Play around with them in the store. I think you'll agree spending the little extra now will benefit you more later on.
10/04/2005 02:44:46 AM · #7
Another recommendation for the Second hand 300D. For the bang for your buck, it can't really be beat. The only serious failings it has compared with the 350Xt would be operational speed and noise becomes an issue at iso 400/800 rather than at iso 1600 on the 350XT.

the S9000 will be around $700 on Amazon. You will be able to get really nice results that ABSOLUTELY BLOW the S9000 AWAY in most circumstances for around 800 dollars if you spend wisely.

You should be able to get 300D plus kit lens at 400-450 US if you look around your local 2nd hand shops and classifieds. It is a little more than that if you go through ebay. Patience pays off. I've seen 300D's go through the local shop here at 350-380US. Usually with a battery grip too. Additionally, you should be able to get something like the Sigma 70-300mm APO for around 200 dollars. That should stick you in the 650-700 dollar range.

In perfect lighting conditions, the S9000 might be able to take pictures that are roughly the same as the 300D in certain areas of it's aperture range and focal travel, but if you want real flexibility, you only really have one choice.

Plus, the resale value of the S9000 WILL drop very quickly. The resale value of a second hand 300D body will not drop anywhere near as quickly. Nor will the value of the sigma lens.

The size of the pixels means that the S9000 will be getting a little bit of noise already that is a little hard to see at its lowest ISO (50 or 100) in the shadows and in areas of constant colour. Check out pictures of sky and soft white backgrounds and do selection by colour range in PS, playing around with your range and you will see what I mean.

The 300D will beat the S9000 every step of the way and not cost you much more either - possibly less!
10/04/2005 06:02:54 AM · #8
Nothing with that many digits in the name is gonna be professional :P
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