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 09/28/2005 09:51:56 AM · #1
Do some people really now how to vote on dp?? I just got a comment on my picture "from the ground up"...that the ground was not in the picture??

I thought the camera was suppose to be on the ground?? HELP anybody>..!!
 09/28/2005 09:53:27 AM · #2
i dont think the ground has to be in the picture.

Message edited by author 2005-09-28 09:53:40.
 09/28/2005 09:53:48 AM · #3
;^)
 09/28/2005 09:57:45 AM · #4
For me at least, I want a sense of position. If the image feels like you were down low or looking up to take the picture, it works for me. However, if I cannot sense that in the image, it doesn't work.
09/28/2005 10:08:52 AM · #5
dahkota..thats what I thought...I guess some people really don't know what they are doing...thanks for the comments...
09/28/2005 10:28:55 AM · #6
My first comment also said the photo didn't fit the challenge but I can't imagine how it could fit it more than it does. I don't have any ground in my photo but it is definately from low down looking up.
 09/28/2005 11:15:35 AM · #7
It might help to imagine two challenges running side-by-side; one, the more general challenge, is titled "Looking Up". The other, the more specific challenge, is titled "From the Ground Up". I figure a lot of voters have something like this in mind when they are scoring the images, and I can't really argue with that. Certainly, many of the submissions fit the general category better than they do the more specific one, IMO at least.

R.
 09/28/2005 11:48:33 AM · #8
Bear...

I didn't think of it that way but you are completely right.
 09/28/2005 11:50:04 AM · #9
Originally posted by philup:
....Do some people really now how to vote on dp?? ...


In a word... No
 09/28/2005 11:55:36 AM · #10
Images in this challenge showing an interpretation of strictly pointing the camera up seems to predominate - and it will be easy to discount those that don't. I see camera angles from the side and what even appears to be looking down that seem to fit, and also a metaphor or two relating to the concept.
 09/28/2005 12:13:00 PM · #11
I just had a comment that said

"sorry, i see a background"

I'm so confused...the photo was shot while I was laying on my stomach shooting UP from the ground.

>shaking and scratching head<

and his answer to his comment was...

"It appears as this photo has a "sky" background. However, I see shadows
behind some of the leaves, as if this flowere arrangement is propped
against a background? I do like the color, clarity etc..."

still shaking and scratching head

g

Message edited by author 2005-09-28 12:36:06.
 09/28/2005 12:21:38 PM · #12
I must admit that my initial interpretation of this challenge was "looking up", which was then expanded to scenes including ground (as in "ground up"), then further expanded to subjects that are resting on the ground. If the subject or photographer has contact with the ground, then by my new understanding, the photograph meets the challenge.
 09/28/2005 12:40:53 PM · #13
What about a floor? A bit surprised by the number of indoor shots. I thought ground meant being outside, you know like on dirt or grass, even a sidewalk... So many interpretations. Don't you LOVE it? He-he.
 09/28/2005 01:07:23 PM · #14
I took "From the ground up" to mean, a low POV . Wish I had more comments, my score is a 4.7 and only 1 comment.
 09/28/2005 01:10:09 PM · #15
I guess another thing I don't understand is why people will not leave any comments...if you vote the picture bad...why not leave a comment explaining why you voted it bad..give a reason, not some stupid comment, like "I see no ground" or "sorry, I see a background" ...
 09/28/2005 01:26:10 PM · #16
If you look at the last "from the ground up" the top ten are all shots looking up with no ground showing.
It's all down to interpretation. I think there are some fantastic photos that don't show the ground but have fantastic artistry (a new word I think). IMO as long as it's can be interpreted to fit the challenge and is a good photo that has great appeal it gets a good score.
 09/28/2005 01:37:40 PM · #17
Originally posted by ziggy_faw:
If you look at the last "from the ground up" the top ten are all shots looking up with no ground showing.
It's all down to interpretation. I think there are some fantastic photos that don't show the ground but have fantastic artistry (a new word I think). IMO as long as it's can be interpreted to fit the challenge and is a good photo that has great appeal it gets a good score.


Except the sixth place entry, which was of an object reaching from the ground up.

I think the "looking up" shots are the primary interpretation, but I think other photos clearly demonstrating the ground and up are also valid -- probably more so than a shot that was actually taken laying on the ground, but that doesn't convey as much through the photo itself.

I'm torn on the big sky landscape shots. Though I can see the point, it just seems a little too general to me.

I absolutely agree the photo doesn't need to have ground showing though, that's a narrow requirement imo.
 09/28/2005 01:44:42 PM · #18
Originally posted by ziggy_faw:
If you look at the last "from the ground up" the top ten are all shots looking up with no ground showing.
It's all down to interpretation. I think there are some fantastic photos that don't show the ground but have fantastic artistry (a new word I think). IMO as long as it's can be interpreted to fit the challenge and is a good photo that has great appeal it gets a good score.


Yer in good shape:

artistry

1. Artistic ability: a sculptor of great artistry.
2. Artistic quality or craft: the artistry of a poem.


:-)

R.
 09/28/2005 01:56:55 PM · #19
Originally posted by turquoise919:
...I absolutely agree the photo doesn't need to have ground showing though, that's a narrow requirement imo.


If the camera is ON the ground it's gotta be difficult to include it (the ground) in the shot, especially if the lens is pointed up (you know to be 'from the ground UP'). But, I guess some could read it that way (including the ground). ;^)
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