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08/28/2005 04:50:32 PM · #1
It's with great intusiasm that I've recently watched a thread about AlienBees and how well they perform for the price, but what surprised me most was reading that some people use them in weddings, includding inside church photos.

I would like to know how is this possible, and how do you use it. If some photo's could be shown to exemplify I would appreciate. Do you use it in the bride/grooms house? Do you use them in the church? With softboxes and/or humbrellas?

Could you put some light, litterally on the subject? Because I thought I was doing ok with my sb800, but this is away ahead.
08/29/2005 01:46:14 PM · #2
No one?
08/29/2005 01:59:07 PM · #3
While I haven't used my Alien Bees in weddings, I own a B400 and B800, and have been considering using them in upcoming weddings. I've only been using Sigma and Canon on-camera flash (with a flash bracket) in the few weddings I've done this past year. I'd anticipate using one of the Bees as the key light, with the on-camera flash as fill. As you may know, the Bees can be triggered remotely by the on-camera flash, so you wouldn't need a synch cord going to them. You could eliminate the power cords, as well, if you use a power pack...

Inside the church I'll be using an umbrella on the B800 (as key). For groups, I'll likely have the Bees on each end of the group - both with umbrellas.
08/29/2005 02:09:25 PM · #4
I don't have any experience in out of the camera flash units so sorry if my questions seems a bit oubvious. But to use them inside church don't you need to mount them almout at the altar? Do you have the time to mount them in the church? Do you recommend the B800 for the job? I don't understand much about the watt power of them and what it represents in therms of light.
08/29/2005 02:09:41 PM · #5
I always bring mine with me to weddings, but rarely actually use them. But then again, I'm not a traditionalist wedding photographer, and people don't hire me for the extreme posed photos (ie: hours of posed photos during the wedding day)

BUT...

I have needed them a few times when it rains (every time the group shots were done in the church). I set up 3 lights (1 1600, and 2 800's) the 1600 straight up with only a reflector, (this is good as a fill light) an 800 with umbrella as a key light, and an 800 with barndoors as a background light.

This is the simplest/quickest setup (for me) and works well for groups. Bride and groom get special light treatment if time allows.

P.S. always bring lots of extension cords! many older churches only have a couple of outlets, and they seem to always be far away from where you are shooting!


08/29/2005 02:12:41 PM · #6
ive been wanting to try it out, i would bounce one off the ceiling (uif the ceiling is white) and try anther one with a softbox at another position

pocket wizards are a must
08/29/2005 02:51:33 PM · #7
I use studio lights for the formal pictures after the ceremony, why wouldn't I? These are my AB 800's, giant softbox and umbrella.
I would've gotten them a lot closer, but there were a lot of group pictures and I ended up scooting the lights closer to the aisle to reduce shadows.




Message edited by author 2005-08-29 16:51:36.
08/29/2005 04:20:40 PM · #8
thanks for the phot and explanation. It seems very nice and the resultant phot is very nice, but mounting all that inside church near the altar gives me the creeps... besides I tink alf the churches I know will be bothered and I'm not shure if they allow it. Don't you have trouble with priests?

Are the B800 good for the job?
08/29/2005 04:49:44 PM · #9
The two weddings I've done were at the same church (which I've regularly attended all my life) and they have no problem with it. The 800's are excellent for the job, they were on half power, I believe and all the photos turned out excellently.
09/17/2005 02:13:47 AM · #10
I have always been a fan of the white lightning stuff but I just wish those Alien Bees were black, those stoopid colors make them look like toys. It's a little hard convincing clients that they didn't come from some barbie kit.

MEH...
09/17/2005 03:02:36 AM · #11
Originally posted by donfanatic:

I have always been a fan of the white lightning stuff but I just wish those Alien Bees were black, those stoopid colors make them look like toys. It's a little hard convincing clients that they didn't come from some barbie kit.

MEH...


They come in black too.......
09/17/2005 03:04:36 AM · #12
old thread!
09/17/2005 03:06:29 AM · #13
At weddings, they are great for posed formals. Far better than anything possible with on-camera flash. If you are taking a stricly PJ approach, they are probably not necessary.

I have seen instances where the photographer will place lights on a wireless sync and set them up throughout the reception hall and use them along with an on-camera flash, but that is a real PITA.
09/17/2005 05:32:38 AM · #14
Ooo, I can play the old thread game as well.

I'm working as 2nd shooter ('The PJ guy') for a large wedding in a couple of weeks. I went with the 1st shooter ('The formal shot guy') to the church this morning to watch another wedding, and 'stake out'. He's planning on putting 4 1200ws strobes in, with pocket wizards setup so he can pick which lights are fired for a shot, and then 'map' the exposure for the lights as he sets them up and draws a layout that he sticks to the back of his camera.

The formal shots are all being done in the church, as it's in the middle of town and the steps are on a busy street frontage.

Serious stuff. Considering last time I worked with him was 8 years ago, and he was using an on camera sunpak with an old yashica SLR and one lens, and I had my OM4 with a 50mm prime and no flash!

I'm really glad I'm just doing the makeup, cars and arrivals shots! I'd loose the plot trying to keep track of the lights!

Cheers, Me.

Message edited by author 2005-09-17 07:18:07.
09/17/2005 07:15:17 AM · #15
i would be a little tense to try and use alien bees using a flash trigger. In a chruch, during a ceremony i imagine there is a few people (tons if it is allowed) shooting off THEIR flashes on their compact cameras... only to set your alien bee's off.
09/17/2005 10:12:18 AM · #16
Originally posted by leaf:

i would be a little tense to try and use alien bees using a flash trigger. In a chruch, during a ceremony i imagine there is a few people (tons if it is allowed) shooting off THEIR flashes on their compact cameras... only to set your alien bee's off.


Not if you use a radio slave.
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