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09/12/2005 02:48:09 AM · #1 |
...but 34 people gave a vote less or equal to 4!
I think I have to reconsider my definition of "good".
Can I ask people to write comments when the vote is so low? That would help others to improve... Over 34 nobody did that!
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09/12/2005 02:50:13 AM · #2 |
| I wouldn't call 46/343 low.. |
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09/12/2005 02:54:14 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Uusilehto:
I wouldn't call 46/343 low.. |
Nor would I, and it's also your personal best! I can't see what the problem is. |
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09/12/2005 02:58:14 AM · #4 |
Just that I'd like to get comments from low voting people.
No problems with the 46th.
S.
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09/12/2005 03:01:18 AM · #5 |
Silvestro,
I gave it a 5. It is really very good in terms of focus, clarity and all that technical, photographic stuff - much more competent in that respect than most of the images that I rated higher. So why only a 5? Because I simply can't see any artistic point to it ... it doesn't challenge, inspire, or communicate anything at all to the viewer. It's just a highly competent photograph of an attractive body part. But for me, that's not enough for a score in the 7+ range. Sorry if I have offended you, but you did ask for an explanation! |
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09/12/2005 04:44:58 AM · #6 |
Commented on your image.
R.
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09/12/2005 07:27:39 AM · #7 |
Offended? Why?
Thank you for your message. Your 5 is not a 1 or 2 or a 3 and it's a good score, so I'm not offended at all. Maybe it's my scheme, but I usually use such low votes for images that have technical issues or are out of the challenge theme.
Originally posted by ubique:
Silvestro,
I gave it a 5. It is really very good in terms of focus, clarity and all that technical, photographic stuff - much more competent in that respect than most of the images that I rated higher. So why only a 5? Because I simply can't see any artistic point to it ... it doesn't challenge, inspire, or communicate anything at all to the viewer. It's just a highly competent photograph of an attractive body part. But for me, that's not enough for a score in the 7+ range. Sorry if I have offended you, but you did ask for an explanation! |
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09/12/2005 07:37:05 AM · #8 |
5 is my baseline score, I score like this
5,not so great shot meets challenge
4,not good shot at all meets challenge
3,terrible may or maynot meet challenge
2 & 1 same as 3 to diffrent degrees.
6, Good shot meets challenge
7&8,Great shot meets challenge to diffrent degrees
9 & 10 ribbon winning shot
I gave your shot a 6
My voting however has changed for the first time for the color portraits. I've knocked everything back one.
I also always leave comments on pics I score 4 or lower so the person knows why.
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09/12/2005 07:46:57 AM · #9 |
the 1'2'3's are just people that didn't see your vision.
if it makes you feel better figure your score with out them,
that's what I do!
but by no means did you do poorly in this comp.
you can't please everyone, and if you try you will just make yourself
insane, unless you already are, then, keep trying because no more damage can be done!:) |
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09/12/2005 07:56:02 AM · #10 |
Angie, I fully agree with your reply. More or less I use the same scheme and that's why I was wondering... but... you know... everybody sees thing differently and that's the good side of life.
Anyway I'm happy with the score. I'm just starting with challenges and it's very amusing.
Originally posted by mystical_princess:
5 is my baseline score, I score like this
5,not so great shot meets challenge
4,not good shot at all meets challenge
3,terrible may or maynot meet challenge
2 & 1 same as 3 to diffrent degrees.
6, Good shot meets challenge
7&8,Great shot meets challenge to diffrent degrees
9 & 10 ribbon winning shot
I gave your shot a 6
My voting however has changed for the first time for the color portraits. I've knocked everything back one.
I also always leave comments on pics I score 4 or lower so the person knows why. |
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09/12/2005 08:05:05 AM · #11 |
Holy words. For my sanity I'm not trying to please everybody, but just trying to figure out if the 1, 2, 3 were people considering the shot technically inadequate or that didn't meet the challenge.
Ok, it's not worth thinking about it. No comments, no thinking!
Originally posted by superdave_909:
the 1'2'3's are just people that didn't see your vision.
if it makes you feel better figure your score with out them,
that's what I do!
but by no means did you do poorly in this comp.
you can't please everyone, and if you try you will just make yourself
insane, unless you already are, then, keep trying because no more damage can be done!:) |
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09/12/2005 08:10:03 AM · #12 |
Hey man, I got 44th place with 45 votes less than 4. :o|
I don't think you're picture is worth anything below six in my oppinion, ah well
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09/12/2005 08:13:35 AM · #13 |
| so many pics of eyes in every challenge. it needs something 'different' to set it apart. however, nice image, placed right around where I did for what I thought was a good capture.. too bad about my border which I thought enhanced it. ah well... |
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09/12/2005 08:20:02 AM · #14 |
I seldom look at the break up on votes these days, it's no use trying to second guess what voters individually give your image and it is of less value to ask in forums.
You had a great result of 46 in a challenge 343 images. What you should do is study all the images in the top 20 and try and figure what thay have that your image didn't, then you will start to understand how to improve your score if thats what your after. |
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09/12/2005 08:47:29 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by keegbow:
I seldom look at the break up on votes these days, it's no use trying to second guess what voters individually give your image and it is of less value to ask in forums.
You had a great result of 46 in a challenge 343 images. What you should do is study all the images in the top 20 and try and figure what thay have that your image didn't, then you will start to understand how to improve your score if thats what your after. |
It was not my intention to understand who/what voters gave what vote... I'm new here and I tried to understand the general voting scheme.
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09/12/2005 06:00:12 PM · #16 |
Let me fess up as one of those who gave the image a 4. It was better than a 1,2, or a 3. However I did not care for those images that I saw as overexposed in either the camera or in the processing in an effort to arrive at "high contrast." So most images where I felt that was done got a lower score from me. I appreciated much more those who were able to accomplish that without having to go that route.
Clearly based on the scores you got that position was not in the mainstream. I suspect that others felt the same way. Some of those may be the ones who gave the lower scores.
All this really shows in the diversity of opinions of the voters. If you can come up with an image which is close to what most voters like you will do well. But you will always have some who do not see it that way.
On the related issue of leaving comments on low scoring images - I tend to comment on those images where the fancy strikes me. I'm on a dial-up connection (unless I can find time to vote from the job site before I start for the day) so first priority is voting on all the images, and then revising those votes. Only then do I consider adding more comments. So in the end most images do not get a comment. |
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09/13/2005 12:26:04 AM · #17 |
Thank you for the comment.
Originally posted by fixedintime:
Let me fess up as one of those who gave the image a 4. It was better than a 1,2, or a 3. However I did not care for those images that I saw as overexposed in either the camera or in the processing in an effort to arrive at "high contrast." So most images where I felt that was done got a lower score from me. I appreciated much more those who were able to accomplish that without having to go that route.
Clearly based on the scores you got that position was not in the mainstream. I suspect that others felt the same way. Some of those may be the ones who gave the lower scores.
All this really shows in the diversity of opinions of the voters. If you can come up with an image which is close to what most voters like you will do well. But you will always have some who do not see it that way.
On the related issue of leaving comments on low scoring images - I tend to comment on those images where the fancy strikes me. I'm on a dial-up connection (unless I can find time to vote from the job site before I start for the day) so first priority is voting on all the images, and then revising those votes. Only then do I consider adding more comments. So in the end most images do not get a comment. |
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09/13/2005 12:55:34 AM · #18 |
Just look at it this way...in baseball the best team loses 60 games while even the worst team wins 60. What separates the teams is how you do in the other 42...
If all pictures have a similar baseline of low scores, the overall rankings don't matter. Yes, I know you wanted comments about why your picture was a 3, but most of those comments wouldn't be worth it anyway. They gave you a 3 because they either don't care, don't understand, or are just voting their gut (how useful is the honest comment "it felt like a 3" going to be?)
The best it can do is show you that there is a large variety of opinion in the world. I get many comments on entries which are exactly opposite. My current challenge entry has comments which love the background and comments which hate it; comments which want a particular item in focus and ones which enjoy it out of focus.
Just look at the overall theme. For that pic, the overall theme of 6.1 is something many people would kill for. You usually have 2-5 people give you considerate and useful comments. Take those and learn from them. |
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