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09/07/2005 10:05:46 AM · #1
I originally had this in the General Discussion thread and then figured someone would turn it into a rant so I moved it before someone else had to.

Just wondering why people do this so much? And those of you that do, do you ever look at how many times the thread has been viewed BEFORE you bump?

Really just curious. For example, a thread recently bumped 2x was viewed hundreds of times before the bumps. If it has been viewed this many times without responses, why do you think bumping it up will produce something else?

Do people ever look at the community page where all the threads active in the last 24 hours are listed? Why is it so important to see it on the front page? Everyone has this set differently so what is your front page with listed threads is not the same as the next persons.

And quoting in threads...when someone posts a whole host of pics or paragraphs of text, why do people quote, repeatedly, the whole mess instead of just quoting the relevant part? Do we need to see the same 5 pics over and over in a thread? Or do we need to see the same 5 paragraphs of text over and over? Doesn't this waste bandwidth? I would think so when people are loading, reading and rereading threads. Slows the load times down as well.

Really just curious about these things.

Message edited by author 2005-09-07 10:07:04.
09/07/2005 10:13:01 AM · #2
I agree with you that quoting whole posts isn't helpful and makes threads lose their structure. However, you needn't fear that this would slow down anything, the images have to be loaded just once, they go to the cache and are (re)read from there.
09/07/2005 10:13:50 AM · #3
Actually, those are very good points IMO. Maybe a website suggestion to automatically remove thumbs from quotes may be in order.
09/07/2005 10:22:36 AM · #4
I usually quote the parts I am referring to.
09/07/2005 10:26:21 AM · #5
Originally posted by rex:

I usually quote the parts I am referring to.


Originally posted by ldowse:

Actually, those are very good points IMO. Maybe a website suggestion to automatically remove thumbs from quotes may be in order.


Originally posted by gloda:

I agree with you that quoting whole posts isn't helpful and makes threads lose their structure. However, you needn't fear that this would slow down anything, the images have to be loaded just once, they go to the cache and are (re)read from there.


Originally posted by Alienyst:

I originally had this in the General Discussion thread and then figured someone would turn it into a rant so I moved it before someone else had to.

Just wondering why people do this so much? And those of you that do, do you ever look at how many times the thread has been viewed BEFORE you bump?

Really just curious. For example, a thread recently bumped 2x was viewed hundreds of times before the bumps. If it has been viewed this many times without responses, why do you think bumping it up will produce something else?

Do people ever look at the community page where all the threads active in the last 24 hours are listed? Why is it so important to see it on the front page? Everyone has this set differently so what is your front page with listed threads is not the same as the next persons.

And quoting in threads...when someone posts a whole host of pics or paragraphs of text, why do people quote, repeatedly, the whole mess instead of just quoting the relevant part? Do we need to see the same 5 pics over and over in a thread? Or do we need to see the same 5 paragraphs of text over and over? Doesn't this waste bandwidth? I would think so when people are loading, reading and rereading threads. Slows the load times down as well.

Really just curious about these things.


I don't know what you're talking about.
09/07/2005 10:29:15 AM · #6
Originally posted by Bebe:

Originally posted by rex:

I usually quote the parts I am referring to.


Originally posted by ldowse:

Actually, those are very good points IMO. Maybe a website suggestion to automatically remove thumbs from quotes may be in order.


Originally posted by gloda:

I agree with you that quoting whole posts isn't helpful and makes threads lose their structure. However, you needn't fear that this would slow down anything, the images have to be loaded just once, they go to the cache and are (re)read from there.


Originally posted by Alienyst:

I originally had this in the General Discussion thread and then figured someone would turn it into a rant so I moved it before someone else had to.

Just wondering why people do this so much? And those of you that do, do you ever look at how many times the thread has been viewed BEFORE you bump?

Really just curious. For example, a thread recently bumped 2x was viewed hundreds of times before the bumps. If it has been viewed this many times without responses, why do you think bumping it up will produce something else?

Do people ever look at the community page where all the threads active in the last 24 hours are listed? Why is it so important to see it on the front page? Everyone has this set differently so what is your front page with listed threads is not the same as the next persons.

And quoting in threads...when someone posts a whole host of pics or paragraphs of text, why do people quote, repeatedly, the whole mess instead of just quoting the relevant part? Do we need to see the same 5 pics over and over in a thread? Or do we need to see the same 5 paragraphs of text over and over? Doesn't this waste bandwidth? I would think so when people are loading, reading and rereading threads. Slows the load times down as well.

Really just curious about these things.


I don't know what you're talking about.


Excessive repetition, I think.
09/07/2005 10:34:03 AM · #7
Part of it is education and experience, the other is human nature.

Education and experience - I for one didn't know about the 'Community' link being an actual link until just recently, and I've been a member since November 2004. In the world of menus the top level item is usually a description - you mouse over and the choices appear. I should have known better because I use 'My Home' all the time...

Human nature (for many) is to do things quickly and not be bothered with details (unless it's a photo of course). To isolate portions of quotes takes time. The easy way is to hit the 'Quote' button, type what you want to say, and Post.

As for checking the number of views a thread has generated requires a bit of both of the above...education to know where to find the info, and taking the time to be bothered to go there and look.
09/07/2005 10:36:38 AM · #8
May the bump rest in peace!


(Who reads anything in italics any more?)
09/07/2005 10:37:39 AM · #9
Originally posted by Bebe:

I don't know what you're talking about.


You spent a lot of time getting those "[/quote]" blocks in place. ;^)
09/07/2005 10:38:17 AM · #10
Hehe.
For what concerns bumping, I think disappointment is an important factor as well. If I post a critique request for an image and after a few days, noone posted any answers, I'd bump it.
09/07/2005 10:38:25 AM · #11
Given our diverse geographical locations, I think a nighttime bump for a daytime post or vice versa is appropriate in order to hit both crowds. I think many people aren't aware of the 24 hour view. Bumping it every four minutes until you get an answer, however, is not and when it gets excessive, the SC usually tries to request the bumper to tone it down a bit.

What gets me more than the quoting the entire thing bit, is people who won't use the quote function, but just use quotations or some other weird notation, mixed in with their own writing. It's incredibly hard to read and I usually end up just skipping those posts.
09/07/2005 10:42:22 AM · #12


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Message edited by author 2005-09-07 10:54:58.
09/07/2005 10:44:27 AM · #13
Originally posted by rex:

Originally posted by Bebe:

Originally posted by rex:

I usually quote the parts I am referring to.


Originally posted by ldowse:

Actually, those are very good points IMO. Maybe a website suggestion to automatically remove thumbs from quotes may be in order.


Originally posted by gloda:

I agree with you that quoting whole posts isn't helpful and makes threads lose their structure. However, you needn't fear that this would slow down anything, the images have to be loaded just once, they go to the cache and are (re)read from there.


Originally posted by Alienyst:

I originally had this in the General Discussion thread and then figured someone would turn it into a rant so I moved it before someone else had to.

Just wondering why people do this so much? And those of you that do, do you ever look at how many times the thread has been viewed BEFORE you bump?

Really just curious. For example, a thread recently bumped 2x was viewed hundreds of times before the bumps. If it has been viewed this many times without responses, why do you think bumping it up will produce something else?

Do people ever look at the community page where all the threads active in the last 24 hours are listed? Why is it so important to see it on the front page? Everyone has this set differently so what is your front page with listed threads is not the same as the next persons.

And quoting in threads...when someone posts a whole host of pics or paragraphs of text, why do people quote, repeatedly, the whole mess instead of just quoting the relevant part? Do we need to see the same 5 pics over and over in a thread? Or do we need to see the same 5 paragraphs of text over and over? Doesn't this waste bandwidth? I would think so when people are loading, reading and rereading threads. Slows the load times down as well.

Really just curious about these things.


I don't know what you're talking about.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


That's what I thought!
09/07/2005 10:45:13 AM · #14


You like that?

Message edited by author 2005-09-07 10:55:17.
09/07/2005 10:46:26 AM · #15
Sorry Alienyst! I'll stop now. I completely understand what you're saying & agree with it.

Message edited by author 2005-09-07 10:50:13.
09/07/2005 10:47:11 AM · #16
You forgot one...

Starting a thread, not getting any responses, and then posting the entire contents of the original post in someone else's thread. Kind of like a hijack bump. ;^)
09/07/2005 10:49:15 AM · #17
Originally posted by Alienyst:

why do people quote, repeatedly, the whole mess instead of just quoting the relevant part?


Simple. Laziness.
09/07/2005 10:49:54 AM · #18


GTG.....I say we plan one for Fall.....Octoberish

Message edited by author 2005-09-07 10:54:41.
09/07/2005 10:51:04 AM · #19
Rex, I've suffered a crisis of conscience. I'm out of the silliness for now! (But I would like another GTG)

Message edited by author 2005-09-07 10:51:20.
09/07/2005 10:54:09 AM · #20
Originally posted by Bebe:

Rex, I've suffered a crisis of conscience. I'm out of the silliness for now! (But I would like another GTG)


Ok I will see what we can plan. I will pm you with any news.

I fixed all my post above.......I was just playin.

Message edited by author 2005-09-07 10:56:04.
09/07/2005 11:09:16 AM · #21
BUMPING is something I often will do but will do in context. I seldom add a simple "BUMP"

But will often not reply for a few hours. The reason one often does so is that people operate on different schedules and threads can sink fast. So bumping a post made in the morning around evening time often allows for many new people to view it who otherwise might not.

I see nothing wrong with it if not over-done!
09/09/2005 11:19:14 AM · #22
bump....
09/09/2005 11:35:16 AM · #23
There is this neat little scroll button on my mouse, so if a large section of posts contain the same quotes with minimal responses, I can keep my hand on the mouse and with my pointer finger, I can scroll down the page with ease. Its so amazing, this scrolling thing.
09/09/2005 11:58:33 AM · #24
Originally posted by phreakon:

There is this neat little scroll button on my mouse, so if a large section of posts contain the same quotes with minimal responses, I can keep my hand on the mouse and with my pointer finger, I can scroll down the page with ease. Its so amazing, this scrolling thing.


Using my middle finger on the scroll-wheel allows me to keep my index finger on the left-click button. Much more economical than moving the index finger back & forth.

This is my middle finger:

09/09/2005 12:04:59 PM · #25
Originally posted by mavrik:

Originally posted by rex:

Originally posted by Bebe:

Originally posted by rex:

I usually quote the parts I am referring to.


Originally posted by ldowse:

Actually, those are very good points IMO. Maybe a website suggestion to automatically remove thumbs from quotes may be in order.


Originally posted by gloda:

I agree with you that quoting whole posts isn't helpful and makes threads lose their structure. However, you needn't fear that this would slow down anything, the images have to be loaded just once, they go to the cache and are (re)read from there.


Originally posted by Alienyst:

I originally had this in the General Discussion thread and then figured someone would turn it into a rant so I moved it before someone else had to.

Just wondering why people do this so much? And those of you that do, do you ever look at how many times the thread has been viewed BEFORE you bump?

Really just curious. For example, a thread recently bumped 2x was viewed hundreds of times before the bumps. If it has been viewed this many times without responses, why do you think bumping it up will produce something else?

Do people ever look at the community page where all the threads active in the last 24 hours are listed? Why is it so important to see it on the front page? Everyone has this set differently so what is your front page with listed threads is not the same as the next persons.

And quoting in threads...when someone posts a whole host of pics or paragraphs of text, why do people quote, repeatedly, the whole mess instead of just quoting the relevant part? Do we need to see the same 5 pics over and over in a thread? Or do we need to see the same 5 paragraphs of text over and over? Doesn't this waste bandwidth? I would think so when people are loading, reading and rereading threads. Slows the load times down as well.

Really just curious about these things.


I don't know what you're talking about.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


That's what I thought!


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