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09/05/2005 03:19:59 AM · #1 |
A challenge where there is no context at all for the photograph. No titles, no landmarks, no family members that can identify the photographer, no personal style, no ...
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09/05/2005 04:06:48 AM · #2 |
Is Librodo's "signature pose" considered a "context" in your book? Or a "personal style"? Are you saying Manny can't be Manny, Heida can't be Heida, Scalvert can't be Scalvert, just so nobody knows who they are? What's the point of that? To show that other people can win ribbons more easily if you take the most recognizable, ribboned photographers on the site and force them to be something other than what they are?
Should we just go all the way and DQ out-of-hand any image by a shooter that uses his/her "formula" on the grounds that it can't be fairly voted upon? I assume that's the impetus for this, that you think anonymity is suffering here? Hell, it's certainly true in MY case since I keep shooting the same landscapes over and over again. 'Cuz they're CLOSE and they're PRETTY and I can't afford the gas to go further afield much right now; I'm a landscape photographer who's all camera'd up with noplace to go.
Sigh... Sorry for the rant...
Robt.
Message edited by author 2005-09-05 04:08:26.
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09/05/2005 04:22:20 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Is Librodo's "signature pose" considered a "context" in your book? Or a "personal style"? Are you saying Manny can't be Manny, Heida can't be Heida, Scalvert can't be Scalvert, just so nobody knows who they are? What's the point of that? To show that other people can win ribbons more easily if you take the most recognizable, ribboned photographers on the site and force them to be something other than what they are?
Should we just go all the way and DQ out-of-hand any image by a shooter that uses his/her "formula" on the grounds that it can't be fairly voted upon? I assume that's the impetus for this, that you think anonymity is suffering here? Hell, it's certainly true in MY case since I keep shooting the same landscapes over and over again. 'Cuz they're CLOSE and they're PRETTY and I can't afford the gas to go further afield much right now; I'm a landscape photographer who's all camera'd up with noplace to go.
Sigh... Sorry for the rant...
Robt. |
Whew Robt! I think you have over reacted. It's actually very simple. I would like to see a challenge where it is the photograph that is getting the votes, not the things around it, like the title, recognisable style, etc. In other words, to paraphrase your own signature ... look and see and suspend all other influences.
BTW, this is not actually my take on photography. The context of the picture is what makes the picture. A picture of a child in arms has a very different emotional reaction if it was taken in drought ravaged Ethiopia vs. the one taken taken in a average comfortable middle-class family home. One of my greatest pleasures is to "bore" people with the details of what, where, how, etc. the photo was taken.
Cheers
Tony
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09/05/2005 04:44:51 AM · #4 |
Well, I did apologize for the rant, LOL. But I'm a little confused, too. I can see removing things from context, artistically, in fact I do it myself, and usually pay the price when I do. A pepper on a post, a mushroom on a black background, whatever. Many of the nude entries, the top ones, were divorced from context. These sorts of images are called "studies", classically. They tend to be low on emotional value and garner reactions based on technique.
But what has that to do with this other laundry list of styles and locations and titles? What are you suggesting, exactly? At the risk of repeating myself, it sounds to me like you're asking identifiable-by-their-style photographerts to shoot some other way for this challenge, for example; but someone ELSE, of course, could do the style and be ok? Ditto for locations; so I have to abandon my marsh for this challenge, but I'd presume someone else was free to use it?
Can you explain a little further what you mean, exactly? 'Cuz that doesn't sound very workable to me. But the idea of a challenge based on shooting an object entirely out of context is appealing enough. Getready for a deluge of flowers against black backgrounds in this one, LOL.
Sorry if it soudned like I was ranting at YOU, it's just the idea that seemed strange to me, at least the way I read it.
Robt.
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09/05/2005 05:22:54 AM · #5 |
Maybe what I am saying is that the photograph shouldn't be identifiable as yours (your marsh) or Heida's (her style). And you could use her style, and she your marsh. It would be more of a fun challenge than anything serious, and not meant to punish the best. They will still win since most of them are outstanding photographers with very varied portfolios.
The out of context idea sounds good. Maybe it is more than that and stretches to the absurd. Puss in boots? Flying Fish? The Statue of Liberty on Table Mountain? Puppies tucked up in bed?
BTW, don't you sleep.
Cheers
Tony
Cheers
Tony
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09/05/2005 05:34:33 AM · #6 |
Yeah, soon, but this is so much fun...
R.
Go look at my "grungy baby" thread, where I am trying to learn to be Joey. Does that help any?
Message edited by author 2005-09-05 05:35:10.
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