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 08/31/2005 05:55:43 PM · #76
On the up side. The Shoe challenge seems to have way way way too much sole.
 08/31/2005 05:57:15 PM · #77
Originally posted by David Ey:
Well rgo, I had a look at your entries and I saw absolutely nothing NEW there. Every shot was a variation of something I have seen before. So, have you nothing new to contribute here?


Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.
 08/31/2005 05:57:27 PM · #78
Nothing wrong with that, there is nothing in this world that hasn't been photographed before...
 08/31/2005 06:32:54 PM · #79
Originally posted by doctornick:
Nothing wrong with that, there is nothing in this world that hasn't been photographed before...


hmmmm .... now THAT would make for an interesting challenge!
 08/31/2005 07:23:33 PM · #80
Maybe voters should look beyond the dpc traditional photo and place a higher premium on the creative aspect of the 'photograph'. Maybe a little more assessment weight should lie there.
 08/31/2005 07:40:53 PM · #81
Being creative is easy.
But creativity without skill is just another bad snapshot.

Actually this is the reverse.......

Skill without CREATIVITY is just another ( ) snapshot


08/31/2005 08:56:14 PM · #82
Originally posted by rgo:
Originally posted by David Ey:
Well rgo, I had a look at your entries and I saw absolutely nothing NEW there. Every shot was a variation of something I have seen before. So, have you nothing new to contribute here?


Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.


Texans; doh

Message edited by author 2005-08-31 20:56:40.
 08/31/2005 10:50:22 PM · #83
Originally posted by rgo:
Three splash shots involving strawberries and milk on the top ten. What do you think about that? Sorry if this is offensive to those who took the splash shots, and to others, but I think the following could be a fairly interesting topic for discussion.

Where is the value of originality here? It's obvious by the number of entries featuring splashes, not to mention splashes with strawberries, that many people think this scene is a good one to shoot. No doubt such scenes can produce very pretty and nice to look at images.

My question is if something is commonplace and there are many versions (albeit of differing quality) of such a scene, why isn't it losing impact? Is there such a thing as timelessness when it comes to such shots? As in would some scenes simply be too overpoweringly nice to look at that we automatically and positively respond to them, regardless of how many times we've seen that or something similar before?
Or is it a matter of "if you haven't seen it, then it's new to you?" Which I suppose would then speak more about the audience's experience in viewing images, etc.

I don't mean this to be an offensive or aggressive process. But I do think I want to ask these questions. Apologies to those who might feel offended, again.

-Rob

PS I'm not interested in "creativity is dead" or "there's no creativity in DPC" responses either.


He says this and I get bashed?
 08/31/2005 11:31:39 PM · #84
Originally posted by David Ey:
Originally posted by rgo:
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He says this and I get bashed?


Hey David,
If you're trying to pick a fight, PM me and I can be uncharitable (or should I say "honest" in your case) to you in a private medium.

In the meantime, if you've got nothing better to do than to try to put down someone else, or be defensive, please just stay off this thread and stick to the GWB rants. I'm sure you can add to the inanity that goes on there. Thanks.

PS I understand how you can totally misunderstand the initial posting on this thread. I rant the whole thing through MS Word's language checker yesterday, and it came back with "12th-grade English," and I guess that's just a bit much, perhaps.
 08/31/2005 11:33:03 PM · #85
Originally posted by RonBeam:
Originally posted by doctornick:
Nothing wrong with that, there is nothing in this world that hasn't been photographed before...


hmmmm .... now THAT would make for an interesting challenge!


I think that WOULD BE interesting as a challenge theme.
 09/01/2005 03:59:16 AM · #86
Perhaps I should have said Texans and Yorkshiremen. I also can be "plain speaking" at times but...........
I apologise for any offence, I ought to know better.
John
 09/01/2005 06:22:16 AM · #87
Originally posted by rgo:
... My question is if something is commonplace and there are many versions (albeit of differing quality) of such a scene, why isn't it losing impact? Is there such a thing as timelessness when it comes to such shots? As in would some scenes simply be too overpoweringly nice to look at that we automatically and positively respond to them, regardless of how many times we've seen that or something similar before? ...

-Rob

PS I'm not interested in "creativity is dead" or "there's no creativity in DPC" responses either.

Why should something that is nice loose interest? The way I see it, good things don't need a justification to exist, they just are. But while the good things are, the bad things are defined in terms of the good things. I'm probably not saying this well, but it's like the 'truth' -- a person does not have to believe in it, or have faith in it, for it to be the truth; it just is. A lie has to be 'sold' to someone, and that person has to believe it before it has any strength.

In terms of photography, there are some images that are just good -- they don't have to be explained to be understood, the viewer doesn't have to know anything about composition to appreciate them, they don't rely on newness to create an impact or any of the many other ways of 'selling' and image as 'good'.

The ribbon winning strawberry splash photo is a very good example of this. It is cleanly done, loaded with compositional elements if a person cares to look -- all in all, an excellent example that once all (or at least most) of the 'bad' things are removed, all that is left is 'good'.

As for the rest of the thread ... something I learned long ago; if someone operates by putting things down, they probably have something to 'sell'.

David
 09/01/2005 07:55:52 AM · #88
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
What harm does it do to bitch a little over milk splashes - better than going on a killing spree at the post office ;)


Don't knock it until you've tried it! ;)

Roger
 09/02/2005 08:33:03 PM · #89
Originally posted by scuds:
But then u see this:
- 47th place


Thanks for the acknowledgement. I found the vote on this facinating. I had more 9's and 10's than I have had on any entry. I also had more 1's and 2's than any entry, and I have had a few that I still ask my self "why did I enter them?".

If you go off the beaten path here, you are going for yourself. They aren't going to score well with everyone.
 09/02/2005 10:37:57 PM · #90
I was one of the few that voted Icy White somewhat high. Admittedly it was only a seven, but after looking at the majority of low scores, I was amazed that there was so many. I still think it was a pretty good picture. I do take a great deal of time looking at the images, gaging the difficulty of the shot, and voting accordingly. It takes me all week just to vote on around 60%, though in the smaller challenges I am usually able to vote 100%
Originally posted by troberge:
Originally posted by azoychka:
Voting here is done quickly and with very little objectivity. Please don't tell me you spend time voting. It is impossible to vote the number of entries in any challenge objectively and with merit. It would be hard enough to assess 10 entries let alone the required 20%. Why is it you think some members desire more? What is lacking in these ribbon pictures?


I think your right. People don't take the time to appreciate the photos they are voting on. I got peeved when people were commenting that my model looked mad and like she was going to kill someone. (actually i laughed at the 1 that said it looked like she wanted to kill). My point is...if they had taken the time they would see that it was titled ICY white! I was not just refering to the temp of the milk!

I think creativity is a gift...and I for one hope that will be rewarded in future challenges.


Message edited by author 2005-09-02 22:44:11.
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