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09/02/2005 03:46:45 AM · #1 |
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09/02/2005 04:00:20 AM · #2 |
| i just read the linked editorial, and i think this post needs to be moved to rant--it is highly political, written by a former clinton aid who would rather politicize this devastation and ratchet up the finger pointing rather than contribute to solving immediate problems. |
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09/02/2005 04:11:06 AM · #3 |
| Ha! They'll be blaming Osama next! |
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09/02/2005 04:16:24 AM · #4 |
Site Council I propose this thread to be sent to the rant section. I agree with skip on this one.
Everyone has there right to there views but I also have read the article and it seems to be very politically motivated.
Interesting article but I believe it to be a rant discussion.
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09/02/2005 04:25:15 AM · #5 |
There is very much truth to what the author has written, but bringing in subjects like AIDs and the Morning After pills does very much detract from the point he is trying to get across.
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09/02/2005 04:39:29 AM · #6 |
| Even with the bad decisions, nothing would have been done in time for this hurricane. They may have started researching but it takes a long time for the research to get done and plans to be implemented. There would not have even been much development in the time allowed from the policy change. Perhaps this was nature's way of telling us the wetland and drainage situation needs to be taken more seriously before more damage is done. I think it will now. Too bad it's too late to save what the city was. I never got to visit the legendary New Orleans. |
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09/02/2005 10:01:51 AM · #7 |
True story...I am a Network Engineer for a large company. A couple of years back one of those crazy viruses was triggered and running rampant on the network. As the virus was migrating across multiple sites the (a very high up IT guy) at the time concerned only with Who triggered the virus and not containment focused his efforts on finding the employee who triggered the nasty little bugger. While two-thirds of the IT group was looking for the Who did it, 2 or 3 people were trying to contain the problem.
I fortunately was one of those fixing the problem instead of one trying to compound it and make it more difficult.
But that is just the way some groups do business.
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09/02/2005 10:17:47 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Ristyz:
Perhaps this was nature's way of telling us the wetland and drainage situation needs to be taken more seriously before more damage is done. I think it will now. |
i hope so too. we've been trying to "outthink" mother nature for far too long now. we need our wetlands and marshes. we need periodic floods upriver. i don't understand why people think that we can drain 27 states worth of runoff into one river and give it only one point at which it can release its power, and that it's not going to have any negative consequences at all.
but, sadly, we'll just build bigger levees and compound the problem. we certainly can't admit that we were wrong.... |
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09/02/2005 11:27:17 AM · #9 |
Question....
Doesn't CONGRESS dictate the financing. Sure the president may approve the overall budget and may put in requests, and eventually "pass" it. But Congress is the one that establishes it.
And I am sure there are many pork barrel projects like that $231-$315 million bridge in Alaska to get to an island that has approx 50 people on it. Something about an airport there. The neighboring town has less than 8,000 residents (about 13,000 if the entire county is included). Probably cheaper to buy them all their own plane.
//www.taxpayer.net/Transportation/gravinabridge.htm
Or what about Boston's big dig debacle that's cost $15 billion for a leaky possibly unsound tunnel that my guess in 20 yrs will either be closed or have cost us another $30 billion.
SO PLEASE - quit blaming this all on the war. If we're going to blame crap let's look at some of the pork-barrel crap.
Message edited by author 2005-09-02 11:27:43. |
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09/02/2005 11:30:35 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by theSaj:
Question....
Doesn't CONGRESS dictate the financing. Sure the president may approve the overall budget and may put in requests, and eventually "pass" it. But Congress is the one that establishes it.
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Note that both houses of Congress are controlled by the same political party as the Executive Branch, meaning these are 100% the policies of those folks who also brought you tax cuts for billionaires.
And guess who's going ultimately going to pay for these rescue appropriations ....
Message edited by author 2005-09-02 11:32:09. |
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09/02/2005 01:40:53 PM · #11 |
from the Richmond Times-Dispatch: "Harwood Cochrane -- the founder of Overnite Transportation -- sets the example. Few can match his $1-million contribution to hurricane relief, but many can give. During their times of struggle, Virginians have benefitted from the kindness of strangers. The Gulf Coast needs help. Dig deep. A list of organizations and agencies accepting donations for disaster aid appears on TimesDispatch.com."]
Harwood Cochrane is one of those who benefited from the tax cuts. |
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09/02/2005 02:02:57 PM · #12 |
I heard an interesting opinion from somebody that a truly free market would never have allowed for this to happen. People don't build houses under sea level in a free market...they build houses under sea level when the government subsidizes levees, pumping systems, etc and provides aid when trouble arises.
A completely free market means that people will make wiser decisions on where to live...
Two disclaimers:
1) This is just an interesting opinion I heard...don't shoot me for not being compassionate
2) No individuals are blamed, it was just a general observation
I'd like to hear your thoughts on that opinion to help make me smarter. |
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