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Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

09/01/2005 01:31:00 PM · #1

cry cry cry for no comments.

I just added this to my profile because i'd about to wade thigh deep into the low scoring shoes.

Originally posted by mesmeraj:

*SHOE CHALLENGE* Okay there has been a lot of bitching and whining on the boards about lack of comments vs low scores on the shoe challenge. In an average challenge, i give out 1-2 3's at most, and none lower. This is a below average challenge - that is not my fault. I am going to try and comment on everything below a 4 but there are over 100 images that just don't cut it imho. Therefore, i don't have time to sugar coat it. I'm gonna tell it like it is. If you don't like my comment, don't PM me and bitch - bitch at all the people in the forums that are moaning that they arent getting helpful comments. You had to come to this page to PM me, if you couldnt be bothered reading this, or send me a angry PM anyways, i will tell you to eat a monkey butt.

I've got butts lined up and ready to go.

Jaimeson

Nikon D40

09/01/2005 01:32:30 PM · #2

HAHA Thanks for the laugh. I needed it today.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

09/01/2005 01:33:25 PM · #3

I hope mine is one of them, I really want to know what I should have done differently (or what others think I should have done differently).

Spare me no mercy. Please.

KaDi

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

09/01/2005 01:36:24 PM · #4

Good for you, mesmeraj!

This challenge finally pushed my resolve: I will no longer be giving out 5's.

I have decided that most photos are technically worthy or they are not. So on my first pass in voting you'll be getting a 6 or a 4. I will adjust those votes away from the center as needed. No more fence sitting for me. No more, "Ho, hum, 5" and I move on. So if you get one of my 4's for your shoes and don't see a comment, it's because I'm overwhelmed. (I'll do my best on the 1-3's....and the one's I can't promote from their original 6.)

Message edited by author 2005-09-01 13:39:22.

Strikeslip

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

09/01/2005 01:53:47 PM · #5

My wife was actually shoulder-surfing last night as I scored some entries. I couldn't believe how ruthless my sweet wife was! "What? You're giving that a six? It sucks!" I had to explain that my scale is from 5 to 10, with DNMC's getting a 4. It saves me from moving my finger so much on the touch-pad. I gave out lots of fives, so many plain old shots of shoes sitting on something. Plain, plain, plain.

I was wondering what some people were thinking as they took their shots... "Oh, the Shoe challenge, OK, I'm going to get off my butt, walk over to the front hall, bang, and I'm spent."

I mean, HELLO! I'm no photographer, but can't we all just spend the time we take while sitting on the toilet to at least hatch a plan?

I'm not asking for much... Set the darn shoes on fire, freeze them in a block of ice, toss them off the Empire State Building, tie them to a police car bumper, fill them with milk, put them on a nekkid chic, just for gosh sake, get them out of the front hall!

Hehe.
;-)

09/01/2005 01:55:13 PM · #6

i just added

Originally posted by mesmeraj:

If you do appriciate the effort i am making, feel free to thank me in PM :p If you really are interested in more feedback, feel free to PM and ask me to elaborate on ym comment.

I'm not doing this to be nasty, but i never said i was a nice person haha.

09/01/2005 02:01:28 PM · #7

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I was wondering what some people were thinking as they took their shots... "Oh, the Shoe challenge, OK, I'm going to get off my butt, walk over to the front hall, bang, and I'm spent."

no kidding slippy - hell some people didnt even remove thier shoes from thier closet. Come on people! And wtf is with people taking off thier shoes and putting them in weird places. Why are so many shoes looking out on a mountaintop view? How did they get there, what are they looking at?
Are sneakers breeding in the forests and mountains of america?

09/01/2005 02:02:12 PM · #8

p.s. my husband is a ruthless over-the-shoulder voter too
"crap" "crap" "crap" "wtf were they thinking?" "crap"

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

09/01/2005 02:08:27 PM · #9

You all are very critical.........I can't believe it! Can't wait to see the winning photo's.........shoe flying back into the box, shoe sinking into milk and shoes on cows! Fantastic! and remember lots and lots of black vacant backgrounds! Man oh man this works for me!

KaDi

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

09/01/2005 02:15:20 PM · #10

Originally posted by azoychka:

You all are very critical.........I can't believe it!

Thank you.

"Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one....
Because of the overuse of negative, nagging criticism, some people become defensive even when receiving constructive criticism given in a spirit of good will. Constructive criticism is more likely to be accepted if the criticism is focused on the recipient's work or behavior....
Especially sensitive individuals may adopt a passive, defeated attitude if they view a situation as personal, pervasive, or permanent (see learned helplessness). Others may adopt an aggressive response."

citation from: TheFreeDictionary (emphasis mine)

09/01/2005 02:19:50 PM · #11

Kadi - i am being ruthless- i know hardly anyone will appriciate it anyways, so who gives a damn lol. No one marks my comments as helpful when i sugarcoat it, so why bother.

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

09/01/2005 02:23:37 PM · #12

Originally posted by mesmeraj:

Kadi - i am being ruthless- i know hardly anyone will appriciate it anyways, so who gives a damn lol. No one marks my comments as helpful when i sugarcoat it, so why bother.

Why be so ruthless? If it's not helpful and not heeded, maybe you need to adjust your approach and philosophy towards voting and assessing photos...........

Strikeslip

Canon EOS-5D

09/01/2005 02:25:32 PM · #13

Originally posted by azoychka:

LOL, I think this is the first thing I've seen you post that didn't come straight out of a philisophical-quotes-that-fit-all-occasions book. ;-)

09/01/2005 02:27:17 PM · #14

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by azoychka:
You all are very critical.........I can't believe it! Can't wait to see the winning photo's.........shoe flying back into the box, shoe sinking into milk and shoes on cows! Fantastic! and remember lots and lots of black vacant backgrounds! Man oh man this works for me!

LOL, I think this is the first thing I've seen you post that didn't come straight out of a philisophical-quotes-that-fit-all-occasions book. ;-)

I'm trying to do better Strikey!

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

09/01/2005 02:27:47 PM · #15

Originally posted by azoychka:

Originally posted by mesmeraj:
Kadi - i am being ruthless- i know hardly anyone will appriciate it anyways, so who gives a damn lol. No one marks my comments as helpful when i sugarcoat it, so why bother.

Why be so ruthless? If it's not helpful and not heeded, maybe you need to adjust your approach and philosophy towards voting and assessing photos...........

because that is my prerogative, my voting and assessing of photos is just fine and my comments are extremely detailed and helpful, i've only ever has one complaint, and it was from a troll. If you dont like it eat monkey butt :D

KaDi

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

09/01/2005 02:28:06 PM · #16

Originally posted by mesmeraj:

Kadi - i am being ruthless- i know hardly anyone will appriciate it anyways, so who gives a damn lol. No one marks my comments as helpful when i sugarcoat it, so why bother.

And I support you in your ruthlessness!
Not all criticism needs to be kind and polite--just accurate and reasoned.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

09/01/2005 02:30:20 PM · #17

Originally posted by mesmeraj:

Originally posted by azoychka:

Originally posted by mesmeraj:
Kadi - i am being ruthless- i know hardly anyone will appriciate it anyways, so who gives a damn lol. No one marks my comments as helpful when i sugarcoat it, so why bother.

Why be so ruthless? If it's not helpful and not heeded, maybe you need to adjust your approach and philosophy towards voting and assessing photos...........

because that is my prerogative, my voting and assessing of photos is just fine and my comments are extremely detailed and helpful, i've only ever has one complaint, and it was from a troll. If you dont like it eat monkey butt :D

How insightful and a little bit arrogant........

Telehubbie

Canon EOS-40D

09/01/2005 02:30:44 PM · #18

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

My wife was actually shoulder-surfing last night as I scored some entries.

Wow! How can you see the monitor when you're down... oh wait, nevermind. ;-)

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

09/01/2005 02:32:18 PM · #19

Originally posted by KaDi:

Originally posted by mesmeraj:
Kadi - i am being ruthless- i know hardly anyone will appriciate it anyways, so who gives a damn lol. No one marks my comments as helpful when i sugarcoat it, so why bother.

And I support you in your ruthlessness!
Not all criticism needs to be kind and polite--just accurate and reasoned.

Neither is easy to do..........(accurate and reasoned)

LeeD

Canon EOS-30D

09/01/2005 02:34:44 PM · #20

Originally posted by Telehubbie:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:
My wife was actually shoulder-surfing last night as I scored some entries.

Wow! How can you see the monitor when you're down... oh wait, nevermind. ;-)

(sorry couldn't resist)

09/01/2005 02:35:12 PM · #21

Originally posted by azoychka:

How insightful and a little bit arrogant........

i case you didnt notice, this is my rant thread and i already stated if people whine to me about how i am commenting i will tell them to eat monkey butts. So chomp down.

Why dont you go make some constructive comments instead of sulking on the boards?

09/01/2005 02:37:14 PM · #22

Originally posted by mesmeraj:

Originally posted by azoychka:

How insightful and a little bit arrogant........

i case you didnt notice, this is my rant thread and i already stated if people whine to me about how i am commenting i will tell them to eat monkey butts. So chomp down.

Why dont you go make some constructive comments instead of sulking on the boards?

Yes, I understand you are mocking your own sillyness...........you have done a fine job of it!

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

09/01/2005 02:48:37 PM · #23

Originally posted by azoychka:

Originally posted by mesmeraj:

Originally posted by azoychka:

How insightful and a little bit arrogant........

i case you didnt notice, this is my rant thread and i already stated if people whine to me about how i am commenting i will tell them to eat monkey butts. So chomp down.

Why dont you go make some constructive comments instead of sulking on the boards?

Yes, I understand you are mocking your own sillyness...........you have done a fine job of it!

Hey azoychika if you have a personal problem with me take it to PM or complain to SC. Don''t follow me around on the boards crying at everything i say. I am not you, i don't care how you think i should go about things, because i am going to do them my way. I am not going to go around praising half arsed images, because people are here to learn and in the art word you have to hear that you stuff is shit before you can improve. I have 6 y/o photography students that can handle constructive crits, its time you stepped up with the 6 year olds and learnt to accept it to. This is a competition,an educational site, it doesnt exist to stroke an ego.

I have work torn up by great metors and artist, because it wasnt good enough. I am close friends with an art professor that will smash your pottery if you do a crappy job of it. The only way you learn form your mistakes is to acknowledge them, admit what you have done is crap and set out to do something better.

LeeD

Canon EOS-30D

09/01/2005 02:55:39 PM · #24

Hey ya'll look.... boobies (and butts for you ladies)