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08/31/2005 05:49:49 PM · #1 |
| It would be great to have a challenge were you take a picture in the 'style' of anther photographer on DPC. I don't mean like the Deja Vu challenge where it is remaking an individual picture, but I mean the artists general style. |
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08/31/2005 05:52:41 PM · #2 |
But we'd all be Joey Lawrence wannabes...
J.K. Good idea!
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08/31/2005 05:53:04 PM · #3 |
We better go out and get safety scissor haircuts then!
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08/31/2005 05:53:06 PM · #4 |
| youd have to give us a crash course in grudgy editting so we could all emulate you Joey ;) |
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08/31/2005 06:43:27 PM · #5 |
I'll second this motion; I've found great satisfaction and enjoyment in trying to emulate the likes of you (Joey), Heida and many other wonderful artists on this site!
Now doing you all justice is another story.
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08/31/2005 06:48:40 PM · #6 |
| I would nominate the (benificent) graphicfunk. =) |
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09/01/2005 01:59:02 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by rasdub:
We better go out and get safety scissor haircuts then! |
You need to do it yourself, too. Haha, no mirrors either. |
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09/01/2005 02:03:47 AM · #8 |
Whew! No style, no class here - I'm safe!
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09/01/2005 02:12:22 AM · #9 |
We've actually done this once before, in the Ansel Adams challenge. We even snuck in a genuine Adams photo to see how it would fare when subjected to the DPC voting system. If you search around, I think there's another thread where some specific photographers were mentioned, but I can't remmeber any of the names specifically.
An interesting twist on this (and making it more open ended) might be to allow the members to submit a photo in the style of any photograper of their own choosing, with the title being the name of the photographer being imitated. Each submission should have a link to an example of that person's work in the additional info section, for comparative/educational purposes.
Message edited by author 2005-09-01 02:12:47. |
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09/01/2005 02:14:42 AM · #10 |
I find it very strange that people would be wanting to immitate another photographer on a site where creativity and thinking outside the box are so often promoted as the values to pursue. I am still trying to find my own style, my own niche in the world of photography. I don't see where immitating others is going to help me develope. It will further the predominence of "the DPC look" if you think that is a desirable goal. I don't.
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09/01/2005 02:15:28 AM · #11 |
| It will be fun if the person who's style we will imitate would also participate. I bet he won't get a ribbon :)) Same as Ansel Adams didn't if I remember well :) |
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09/01/2005 02:17:53 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... An interesting twist on this (and making it more open ended) might be to allow the members to submit a photo in the style of any photograper of their own choosing, with the title being the name of the photographer being imitated. Each submission should have a link to an example of that person's work in the additional info section, for comparative/educational purposes. |
Can I submit a photo in the style of myself?
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09/01/2005 02:20:30 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
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An interesting twist on this (and making it more open ended) might be to allow the members to submit a photo in the style of any photograper of their own choosing, with the title being the name of the photographer being imitated. Each submission should have a link to an example of that person's work in the additional info section, for comparative/educational purposes. |
Sounds cool. I would go for the style of this awesome photographer. I might just be able to pull a decent score, as long as the 'comparative' value of the example is a big factor in the voting !!!
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09/01/2005 02:22:18 AM · #14 |
I say we imitate this one.
Message edited by author 2005-09-01 02:23:02. |
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09/01/2005 02:35:05 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
I say we imitate this one. |
Lol that was funny would love to know how you do that! |
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09/01/2005 02:41:34 AM · #16 |
It would rock to see Joey imitate himself.
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09/01/2005 02:48:38 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
I find it very strange that people would be wanting to immitate another photographer on a site where creativity and thinking outside the box are so often promoted as the values to pursue.
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This is akin to any other "technique-based" challenge. I wasn't suggesting adopting the style of another, but rather to experiment to see what techniques are needed to achieve a certain effect.
Originally posted by coolhar:
I am still trying to find my own style, my own niche in the world of photography.
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Originally posted by coolhar:
Can I submit a photo in the style of myself? |
You found it already? Fast work! : )
To avoid compromising anonymity too much, you might have to list your real name in the title, rather than your DPC nom-de-lumen ... |
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09/01/2005 03:32:17 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
I find it very strange that people would be wanting to immitate another photographer on a site where creativity and thinking outside the box are so often promoted as the values to pursue. I am still trying to find my own style, my own niche in the world of photography. I don't see where immitating others is going to help me develope. It will further the predominence of "the DPC look" if you think that is a desirable goal. I don't. |
If DPC is a site for learning, this challenge fits right in. The time-honored way of learning anything is to repeat previous exercises, as it were, to master the techniques. In their studies mathematicians repeat the derivation of classic proofs, chemists learn to repeat various experiments, writers are given particular styles to emulate in exercises, etc. The AA challenge exposed a LOT of people to the difficulties of creating fine, full-range B/W images who might otherwise not have attempted such a thing. Yet I haven't seen any shift in the site collectively towards Ansel-type images.
I don't think this argument carries much weight.
Robt.
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09/01/2005 03:36:03 AM · #19 |
I think this is a great idea, except almost all the entries would be in the style of a selection of about 5 photographers.
I would suggest that this photographer would make an interesting exception.
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09/01/2005 03:37:30 AM · #20 |
Damn ! I fell for that one again. I can be so naive sometimes :)
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09/01/2005 03:39:49 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by e301:
I think this is a great idea, except almost all the entries would be in the style of a selection of about 5 photographers.
I would suggest that this photographer would make an interesting exception.
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Lol I cant believe I fell for that agian I'm starting to get a big head!! All these people that want to emulate me!! |
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09/01/2005 03:52:53 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by e301:
I think this is a great idea, except almost all the entries would be in the style of a selection of about 5 photographers.
I would suggest that this photographer would make an interesting exception.
e |
Stop that. We're a bunch of sheeps.
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09/01/2005 06:54:47 AM · #23 |
Isn't DPC kinda like that anyway? Immitating style?
There's are many people on that boat already. Some do it, to a tee.
That's what I try to do all the time but hopefully I'm making those looks or styles my own...or eventually my own style will be born from the exercise.
In one way it's a great idea, in another light it might be redundant and if DPC doesn't need anything(or any more of), that would be more sameness. Just a thought.
Message edited by author 2005-09-01 07:25:08.
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09/01/2005 07:52:39 AM · #24 |
| Coping a 'Master' was always an accepted method of 'learning' how to paint etc. Since so many of the techniques of photography have attain overwhelming acceptance and usage it would be difficult to determine what exactly is someones style. You would have to determine who started it? Sheesh.....figure that one out.......... |
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09/01/2005 11:13:32 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
If DPC is a site for learning, this challenge fits right in. The time-honored way of learning anything is to repeat previous exercises, as it were, to master the techniques. In their studies mathematicians repeat the derivation of classic proofs, chemists learn to repeat various experiments, writers are given particular styles to emulate in exercises, etc. The AA challenge exposed a LOT of people to the difficulties of creating fine, full-range B/W images who might otherwise not have attempted such a thing. Yet I haven't seen any shift in the site collectively towards Ansel-type images.
I don't think this argument carries much weight.
Robt. |
It's not hard to get people to jump on a bandwagon in an internet forum. That doesn't mean it is a good idea. And this one isn't, at least for me. I don't have any ribbons, probably never will, but I know that I don't want my style to develope by seeing how well I can do what others have already done. I don't want my style, if I am ever able to establish one for myself, to remind me of anyone else's. I want it to be my own. As much my own as I can make it be. And it won't be that if I go around trying to be like other photographers.
The idea of learning by imitating previous successes of others is anti-thetical to the way people are always talking up creativity and an outside of the box approach around here. You can't have it both ways, and to try to convince us otherwise is, IMHO, hypocritical.
Asking me to imitate Ansel Adams infringes on my creativity, LOL.
What could possibly be more stunting to one's growth as a photographer than trying to closely repeat what someone else has already done, regardless of how famous that person was, or how well their work was received? During the Renaissance the most successful painters of the day would school dozens of young students to imitate their techniques down to the actual brushstrokes. Hundreds of years later a trained critic or art historian would look at a masterpiece of one of those students, and without knowing who painted it, would say "ah, must be a disciple of Botticelli".
I think the AA challenge left it's mark, heavily, on dpc in the relatively high amount of B&W photos seen in challenges, portfolios and these forums. But I certainly don't expect you, Robert, to recognize or acknowledge that. That would be asking too much. It didn't teach me much more than to change my camera's settings to what was described in the forums. That and to find a scene that people could mistake for the Old West. I got a decent score, quite a few nice comments and a fav out of it, but I don't feel like it taught me anything I will ever use again. Maybe it taught me that modern digital cameras can do conversion to B&W as well as using intricate techniques within expensive software.
Who wants to spend large amounts of their resources struggling to work out their own individual style; and then finally reach a level of success that would get a ribbon here at dpc only to have people say "Your shots are great. They look just like Joey Lawrence's work"? (Sorry Joey but I've already been called on the carpet for daring to be critical of heida's work.)
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