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08/31/2005 11:47:46 PM · #1 |
Many of you may remember the chain email going around now and last year and the year before that saying not to buy gas on what ever day to show the big wigs at the oils companies we are tired of high gas prices
Gas Out
well in a response to this "hoax" I feel the network of gas station operators, using secrete oil company satalite communications equipment, have come together to show US who the boss is. Only they actually acted upon it.
Raise the cost
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08/31/2005 11:53:45 PM · #2 |
Moot point here. There is no gas so cost is a non-issue.
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09/01/2005 12:21:37 AM · #3 |
If you guys are the least bit serious about this issue, stop looking at silly rumor websites and start reading up on the disappearing oil reserves on this planet.
Even more importantly, stop people like Bush from ruining your most beautiful natural resources, e.g. Alaska's wilderness, on their reckless quest for even more oil reserves in yet unruined places.
The car and oil industry have to start thinking in different ways (away from trucks, SUVs and other unnecessary gas guzzlers for one thing) or you WILL end up paying almost as much for gas as we've been paying for the last 30 years or so. A gallon costs roughly USD 5 over here (Europe, Switzerland specifically), has cost that much, sometimes even cosiderably more, for AGES. And that's because we've had to pay actual world market prices, as we don't do our own digging, bribing and going to war over oil...
Cheers,
Bruno
Message edited by author 2005-09-01 00:24:32. |
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09/01/2005 12:59:37 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by BeeGee:
If you guys are the least bit serious about this issue, stop looking at silly rumor websites and start reading up on the disappearing oil reserves on this planet.
Even more importantly, stop people like Bush from ruining your most beautiful natural resources, e.g. Alaska's wilderness, on their reckless quest for even more oil reserves in yet unruined places.
The car and oil industry have to start thinking in different ways (away from trucks, SUVs and other unnecessary gas guzzlers for one thing) or you WILL end up paying almost as much for gas as we've been paying for the last 30 years or so. A gallon costs roughly USD 5 over here (Europe, Switzerland specifically), has cost that much, sometimes even cosiderably more, for AGES. And that's because we've had to pay actual world market prices, as we don't do our own digging, bribing and going to war over oil...
Cheers,
Bruno |
I am serious about the topic. Gas prices here in the states were risen for no reason. all the stations raised their prices when they did not take on a new supply of the higher cost gas due to the shortage caused by the storm. if a station normally buys their supply of gas for $1.00 (I dont know the actual cost they pay) a gallon and they sell it to us for $1.75. they make .25 cents a gallon profit and the government takes .50 cents a gallon for taxes.
Now after the storm the stations supply of gas now cost $1.80 cents so they still need to make their 25 cent profit and 50 cents to uncle sam. that comes out to $2.55 a gallon. But not many stations received their higher priced supply of fuel so why in the hell did they raise the cost?? Riddle me that batman???
somewhere between 20 and 40 years from today we will have reached the point that the oil reserves in the ground (world wide) will be half empty. The price of gas world wide will be higher than you can imagine. Because once we start running out of supply the cost goes up. Experts are in heated arguments on when this will happen, some say 20 years, some say 40 to 50 years. you can find this by doing a google search
I really hate it when people blame 1 single person for problems. Its not George W. Bush's grand idea to rape Alaska of the oil there. he does not go drill for it,(yes he wants money from it) he is just a monkey being told what to do by the house and the senate, they say sign here and he says ok and then they write a speech for him to sell the idea the public. This is the case with every US president. He is just a figure head or a spokes person with little actual power, the house the senate and congress run the presidency, havent you figured that out yet.
James
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09/01/2005 01:13:19 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by BeeGee:
And that's because we've had to pay actual world market prices, as we don't do our own digging, bribing and going to war over oil...
Cheers,
Bruno |
What accounts for the high cost of British gas, or petrol as it is known in the U.K.? Taxes, taxes, taxes.
Between approximately 65 and 75 percent of the price of gasoline in the U.K. is taken as taxes. U.S. drivers are paying a seemingly paltry 27 percent of their gas bill to the government.
And gas prices in the U.K. aren’t even the highest in Europe. The Netherlands, the most expensive country on this side of the Atlantic, boasts marquee rates of more than 99 pence a liter, equal to $6.77 a gallon, while Norway’s average is about $6.56.
“Our prices have gone up gradually,” said Keith Lewis of the Society of Motor Manufacturers. “We haven’t seen a sudden shift from let’s say, 60 pence to 80 pence. People tend to take it as just one of those things.”
You can find this read here.
A report issued by the Federal Trade Commission in July 2005 states that 85% of the changes in the retail price of gasoline in the U.S. are caused by changes in the price of crude oil. Other important factors in the price of gasoline include increasing worldwide demand, supply restrictions, and governmental regulations, such as “clean fuel” requirements and taxes. See the full FTC Report at
www.ftc.gov/opa/2005/07/gaspricefactor.htm.
EDIT: But I do believe that here in the US we do not use common sense in conservation. We also need to be looking at alternative energy sources more aggressively.
Message edited by author 2005-09-01 01:18:08. |
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09/01/2005 08:58:16 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by SDW65:
What accounts for the high cost of British gas, or petrol as it is known in the U.K.? Taxes, taxes, taxes.
EDIT: But I do believe that here in the US we do not use common sense in conservation. We also need to be looking at alternative energy sources more aggressively. |
the US does not have any common sense, especially if there is money to be made. The us says we do things for the good of all people, but only a few benefit while the rest of us suffer
I think its time to end all this venting, its not helping us any, but youe I am thankfull for now we dont pay prices like in Europe. I just really wonder if the public in Europe really benefit from the extreamly high taxes?
James
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09/01/2005 09:44:53 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by SDW65:
Originally posted by BeeGee:
And that's because we've had to pay actual world market prices, as we don't do our own digging, bribing and going to war over oil...
Cheers,
Bruno |
What accounts for the high cost of.... |
Thanks Scott for a level-headed, well-said response. It's scary that the sentiments/perceptions in some places of the world are this distorted!
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09/01/2005 10:51:23 AM · #8 |
Part of the reason for higher gas prices in the UK is an environmental one - from another post of mine on UK taxation of petrol:
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In 1993, in one of the few environmentally responsible actions that the Tory government ever undertook, the then chancellor of the exchequer, Kenneth Clarke, brought in the fuel duty escalator, which automatically raised fuel duty above the level of inflation each year. Its purpose, apart from being a nice little earner for the Treasury, was to increase the cost of fuel to reflect the true environmental cost of motoring.
This lasted until 2000, when increases in the cost of oil combined with increased duty, led to fuel protests and the blockading of fuel depots in protest. We had then as little petrol as nsbca7 has now!
We are seeing the same fuel increases in the UK as are being felt in the US, but because the cost of oil is less than a third of the pump price (the remainder being fixed duty), the price rise is dampened proportionately.
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However, that is not to say that the price of petrol is unaffected by illegal aggression (US in Iraq) or the threat of it (US on Venezuala), price fixing (OPEC, release of US reserves), trickery (most OPEC countries overestimating oil reserves to permit over-pumping of oil, Esso and the other fuel companies on oilfield reserve estimates), plus a helping of mother nature (N.O.).
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