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08/30/2005 11:25:09 PM · #1 |
these are not by me...they are AP photos from New Orleans...i can't imagine being in their situation
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08/30/2005 11:35:12 PM · #2 |
| wow... ive hardly seen any footage of Katrina yet... ive been busy organising photos when the news is on.... everybody is on my mind though... what a terrible thing to go through, as i sit here today, it is howling with wind outside, nothing compared to over there, but it's windier than usual,and couldn't imagine it being 200kph wow.. everyone take care |
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08/30/2005 11:54:30 PM · #3 |
We just got a tornado to the south, of brazil.
A small town, of only 3.000 ppl, totally devastated.
Right now, Curitiba (my city) is under a severe thunder storm, heavy showers! Wind is blowing hard also, I've never experienced such thing.
I know it's nothing compared to a hurricane, but it sure is scary!
My thoughts are with yall, suffering from mother nature's wrath!
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08/31/2005 12:01:29 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by scuds:
I know it's nothing compared to a hurricane, but it sure is scary!
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Don't think that's nothing. A tornado is way more scary then a hurricane. If a hurricane hits your house there is a good chance it will survive. If a tornado hits, there is no house. Plus a hurricane gives you plenty of warning to get prepared. You don't get prepared for a tornado.
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08/31/2005 12:07:29 AM · #5 |
You cant compare the misery of losing a house, or loved ones. You cant because its the same.
But the magnitude and absulute destuction of entire cities is a bit different just because it effects so many more people.
This is just as horrible of a thing as I have ever seen. All of NO is just unliveable and will be for the next few monthes.
And shame on you nsbca7 for saying what you did in another thread. I hope one day you regret it. Because here we are.....
Message edited by author 2005-08-31 00:26:19. |
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08/31/2005 12:21:18 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by scuds:
I know it's nothing compared to a hurricane, but it sure is scary!
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Don't think that's nothing. A tornado is way more scary then a hurricane. If a hurricane hits your house there is a good chance it will survive. If a tornado hits, there is no house. Plus a hurricane gives you plenty of warning to get prepared. You don't get prepared for a tornado. |
Actually, when I said "nothing" I was comparing the hurricane on the US, to the the winds here at Curitiba, not to the tornado itself. I know that a tornado is devastating, from the images I just saw on the TV, there was NO, I repeat, NO house standing at that city! The entire city was just a big pile of wrecked stuff, just like if a bomb exploded right in the middle of it!
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08/31/2005 12:30:38 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Riggs:
And shame on you nsbca7 for saying what you did in another thread. I hope one day you regret it. Because here we are..... |
I said a lot of things in a lot of threads. What the hell are you talking about.
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08/31/2005 01:36:08 AM · #8 |
One Picture tells the full story
You can find this picture along with others and videos at MSMBC - Wrath of Katrina
Message edited by author 2005-08-31 01:36:27. |
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08/31/2005 01:53:30 AM · #9 |
oh my god... reminds me of the tsunami :( terribly sad
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08/31/2005 02:22:10 AM · #10 |
When will people stop building on ground below sea level, on 20 year flood plains and on the beach? I guess when our federal government stop paying people to rebuild in the same places each time.
Gulf Shores was devastated last year by Ivan. Hotels and high-rise condos were leveled. During Katrina some of the hotels and condos that were just nearing completion, that were being built in the exact same spot as the ones felled by Ivan, have suffered major structural damage.
Insurance companies won't touch these risks. Our federal government takes up the entire tab every time, thus encouraging the building of beachfront houses, condos and hotels. Tell these owners they must insure themselves against something they know will happen and I'm sure most would never rebuild on our beaches.
The commanding General of the Army Corps of Engineers made an assessment of Dauphin Island in 1979 after Frederick. The assessment stated that it would be unwise to allow reconstruction of houses and businesses on that island, because of the high risk of destruction and the real possibility of wash-over.
Money talks.
Today Dauphin Island is little more then sand and debris. Hit hard 2 times in less then a year. Will they rebuild? Probably.
New Orleans
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08/31/2005 02:29:13 AM · #11 |
We just found out that both my father and my wife's father have lost everything they own after the levees that protect their parts of town broke. My wife's sister probably lost everything as well, but we haven't heard from her yet. They're all homeless now and will be living with us and other family members until they can rebuild, which will take quite a while. Until those levees are repaired, this is only going to get worse. Prayers are very welcome at this point. :-)
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08/31/2005 02:33:37 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by PhilipDyer:
Prayers are very welcome at this point. :-) |
You have mine.
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08/31/2005 02:35:56 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by PhilipDyer:
We just found out that both my father and my wife's father have lost everything they own after the levees that protect their parts of town broke. My wife's sister probably lost everything as well, but we haven't heard from her yet. They're all homeless now and will be living with us and other family members until they can rebuild, which will take quite a while. Until those levees are repaired, this is only going to get worse. Prayers are very welcome at this point. :-) |
that is just awful news. Lucky they have their lives. (not to downplay their loss whatsoever) I am so sorry for you and your family.
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08/31/2005 02:37:52 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by PhilipDyer:
We just found out that both my father and my wife's father have lost everything they own after the levees that protect their parts of town broke. My wife's sister probably lost everything as well, but we haven't heard from her yet. They're all homeless now and will be living with us and other family members until they can rebuild, which will take quite a while. Until those levees are repaired, this is only going to get worse. Prayers are very welcome at this point. :-) |
I was just watching NMNBC and they were talking about New Orleans. The situation in New Orleans is getting worse. There are two known levee breaches and reports are coming in that there may be another. The latest news Out of New Orleans are that the attempts to plug the levee breaches has failed. And now the Governor of Louisiana is calling for the evacuation of everyone in New Orleans.
It is possible the water level in New Orleans could reach 3 feet above sea level. With most of New Orleans being 20 feet below sea level that would put the city under as much as 23 foot of water.
One State official that was interviewed was asked what about New Orleans, when can we look forward to rebuilding. He simply replied, "their may not be a NEW-New Orleans". Thats a strong statement.
Message edited by author 2005-08-31 02:39:20. |
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08/31/2005 02:37:58 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
When will people stop building on ground below sea level, on 20 year flood plains and on the beach? I guess when our federal government stop paying people to rebuild in the same places each time.
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I often think the same thing here every summer. When there are massive bush fires. People build in areas that are reknown for devestating fires. I just dont understand it.
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08/31/2005 02:45:12 AM · #16 |
Veiwed logically you would think there would be a mass exodus from such areas after this type of disaster. The truth is that it is just the opposite. Gulf Shores was a small beach-side community before Federick in 1979. By 1984 the population had almost tripled the pre 79' figures because there was a great influx of builders and workers to the area who simply stayed. The same thing happened in NC after Hugo.
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08/31/2005 02:48:14 AM · #17 |
Greetings to y'all from flood devastated Switzerland - of all places.
We, also, treat nature with too little respect. We've built where our ancestors were smart enough not to build, we gave some of our rivers concrete beds, taking their ability to meander naturally, we thought we'd be able to control landslides by erecting man-made barriers.
And we trusted our mountains and glaciers to stay frozen solid and to hold up and back all the material that litterally hangs over our heads...
10 days ago we had MASSIVE rainstorms and all hell broke loose. Devastating floods and mud-slides, combined with dead wood left in our forests after a devastating wind-storm roughly 7 years ago that became deathly driftwood and blocked many natural outlets of lakes and rivers and thus caused further flooding, have ruined historic villages, touristy as well as non-touristy and we are facing roughly USD 1 billion in damages. Our public transport system, usually the most reliable on earth, broke down in parts. Huge sections of very well constructed highway were blown to shreds by the forces of nature.
Global warming has struck, the climate change is showing us that hybris will get us nowhere, except if you consider devastation to be "somewhere"...
All the best to the survivors of nature's terrible forces all over the globe.
Remember, we're one planet, no replacement, nobody gets spared, politicicans can't do crap about this kind of incident - Bush asked people to pray... - except this:
ACT NOW AND START MAKING SENSE WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES
We're running out of oil, gas prices are on the rise globally, even in the US, finally, so get out of your SUVs, shove them up GM's and Ford's you-know-what, get your money back and buy a bicycle or a commuter rail pass or at least a hybrid car. Honda and Toyota make great ones and they may cost a lot to purchase but they'll give you 50+ miles per gallon - try that with your Hummer, GMC, Dodge RAM, Ford F150, Porsche Cayenne, BMW X5 (to name just a few of these deadly monsters...)
Rant over :-)
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08/31/2005 02:52:39 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by BeeGee:
Greetings to y'all from flood devastated Switzerland - of all places.
We, also, treat nature with too little respect. We've built where our ancestors were smart enough not to build, we gave some of our rivers concrete beds, taking their ability to meander naturally, we thought we'd be able to control landslides by erecting man-made barriers.
And we trusted our mountains and glaciers to stay frozen solid and to hold up and back all the material that litterally hangs over our heads...
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Katrina's real name
Anyone who thinks there is not something to this is a fool.
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08/31/2005 03:01:31 AM · #19 |
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08/31/2005 03:15:26 AM · #20 |
Check out these two barreling one behind the other into China.
They should rate about 45 seconds on Fox, if they get that.
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08/31/2005 03:20:17 AM · #21 |
man... what is happening to this rock we live on
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08/31/2005 03:47:49 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by lentil:
man... what is happening to this rock we live on |
What type of environment do you think of when you think of Lebanon? Arid? Desert? Close. It wasn̢۪t always like that. Read the Bible or Gilgamesh and they speak of the vast forests of Lebanon. Not at all desert-like.
The also speak about the cutting of the forests.
In Gilgamesh it is thought an evil thing when the first massive cedars are felled. In the Bible, Solomon orders the trees cut.
Perhaps the oldest monument in Egypt is the Sphinx. Unlike the ancient cities and pyramids whose construction can be attributed to some pharaoh and some point in time fairly accurately, the Sphinx has yet to be classified in such a way. In recent excavations and restorations on the Sphinx, while digging below the sandblasted upper sections of the structure, down beneath the protecting sands, archeologists found something unexpected: evidence of water erosion at the base.
No one holds dominion on the land of milk and honey long who doesn̢۪t care for and protect that land.
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08/31/2005 04:30:47 AM · #23 |
you don't have to go to Lebanon to state examples like that.
Look around the US and see how megalomaniac developers stomped cities out of desert floor that are bound to vanish sometime because you can't get water from just ANYWHERE at a bearable cost, FOREVER.
The site where Las Vegas stands today was, just over a hundred years ago, considered UNINHABITABLE (does this word even exist ? ;-)
LA is built in the desert, survives thanks to water from East of the Sierra Nevada (that's why Mono Lake is so beautiful, but oh so dead, too...).
Phoenix AZ is a deadly sin in terms of "development". Look at the water levels in Lakes Mead and Powell and be surprised (NOT!)
Remember the dustbowl??
It'll come back, with a vengeance... |
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08/31/2005 04:31:34 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
[quote=lentil] man... what is happening to this rock we live on |
I've been saying for a while now that the Earth is cleansing herself.. Unfortunately though, that means a whole lot of heartache for a whole lot of people :(
My Prayers and thoughts are with all those out on the Coast right now.. there are no words of comfort when your world has collapsed.. but you are in my thoughts and heart. |
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08/31/2005 04:57:10 AM · #25 |
Here's an image for you:
I couldn't pick the camera up to take it so you all will just have to visualize it. I was in Bayou la Batre standing by the side of the mud caked road looking at the overturned shrimp boats stacked up in and around the bayou when I heard an 11 or 12 year old boy calling out to his father. I turned to look. The boy was standing next to the chain link fence around his yard. In the background was the single story rancher, door open, part of the walls toward the bottom ripped away. Dad! Here's your computer!" pointing to a pile of mud and debris caught in the fence. "And look. Here's some of the pictures too."
Message edited by author 2005-08-31 04:57:32.
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