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08/24/2005 05:08:46 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
Check out the 11 page business over the use of the word "God"/bible quotes on the boards. You real think this would be any different? |
I pretty sure that was started over a thread that was addressing the "Milk" challenge. Ironic, isn't it?
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08/24/2005 05:16:51 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by notonline:
Nothing. It's local to America. Canada is still letting in people that the states wouldn't and we have no added security. |
You mean it's local to the US? Tell the people in the UK, Spain, Iraq, Italy, Afghanistan, or Kuwait that it's local to the US.
The fact that Canada is letting in people who have been blocked from entering the US would be something in itself IMO. |
So why not a "Aftermath of London bomb blast" or "Tsunami Effect" or "Effects of gazillion hurricanes in Cuba"....
Well basically, "Human Suffering" would include everything...I personally do not like the idea of a challenge specific to a calamity endured by a country in a site that caters to global people...
Well, in some ways (i know i'm being childish) it feels like others problems are not being considered big enough. Like Mom likes my sis more than me because she got her a new dress kind of thing...
I do agree that its human tendency to feel that my neighbour's cat's problems are more important than the problems of some unknown person in some unknown land ...its again human nature that what affects us directly is what is considered huge...
But being photographers, IMO it is a goal to try to look at humanity as a whole and not be divided by religion, location, race etc etc. Embrace all problems as 'our' problems and try in every way humanly possible not to incite dividive isolationist feelings...
(Sigh! I should probably go live in my dream world)
Message edited by author 2005-08-24 17:29:31.
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08/24/2005 05:19:03 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
Check out the 11 page business over the use of the word "God"/bible quotes on the boards. You real think this would be any different? |
I pretty sure that was started over a thread that was addressing the "Milk" challenge. Ironic, isn't it? |
I don't think it was - i don't want to drag the person i think the original thread concerned into another debate hes had a tough enough time already! |
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08/24/2005 05:33:52 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by suprada:
So why not a "Aftermath of London bomb blast" or "Tsunami Effect" or "Effects of gazillion hurricanes in Cuba"....Well basically, "Human Suffering" would include everything...I personally do not like the idea of a challenge specific to a calamity endured by a country in a site that caters to global people. |
So why don't we just get so general to ask for an "Everything" challenge?
You don't feel that the London bombings were in direct relation to the UK's reaction to 911? That̢۪s funny, because the people who claimed responsibility for the blasts have stated that is why they happened.
As far as hurricanes go, natural disasters have nowhere near the same psychological impact on society, no matter how severe, as man caused acts of violence - this coming from someone living on the Gulf Coast.
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08/24/2005 05:51:30 PM · #55 |
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You don't feel that the London bombings were in direct relation to the UK's reaction to 911? That̢۪s funny, because the people who claimed responsibility for the blasts have stated that is why they happened.
As far as hurricanes go, natural disasters have nowhere near the same psychological impact on society, no matter how severe, as man caused acts of violence - this coming from someone living on the Gulf Coast. [/quote]
I'm not trying to talk about the causes of bombings. Those terrible people did bomb the place, no knowing where they will next..I do not talk about that. I thought the challenge suggestions were the effects of 9/11... the emphasis being that 9/11 was such a tragedy and how it has affected the lives of all. And I dont think the other bombings were caused due to 9/11. They all might have been triggered due to the same reason... but when talking of effects of 9/11, all the people in all these places would have felt the effects individually. Spaniards would have been more affected by what happens in Spain. ...So instead of looking at places and dates individually, why not look at it in the global context?
About horrors on man by man having more impact, I agree. So why not consider torture, rape, mutilation, child abuse and other such horrors too? Hence "Human Suffering". Or if you want to stick to effects of war, why not "War aftermaths" or "Bombing residue"....
All are general enough....
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08/24/2005 06:14:53 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by suprada:
So why not consider torture, rape, mutilation, child abuse and other such horrors too? Hence "Human Suffering". |
As I said before - too broad. If you want a challenge on child abuse, fine, ask for one.
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08/25/2005 09:33:46 AM · #57 |
Originally posted by srdanz:
[quote=mesmeraj] What I'm trying to say is: people do not need the photo challenge to express their views. |
Pardon me, but what the heck is photography all about, if not expressing the way the photographer sees the world around him/her?
Where do they hand out the keycards to ivory tower here? |
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08/25/2005 01:07:13 PM · #58 |
| Um i'd just like to point out that i am being misquoted in the above post - i *never* said that people do not need the photo challenge to express their views. I don't even know how my name got attached to that thread. |
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08/25/2005 01:14:41 PM · #59 |
You're right and I apologize. I replied with a quote to srdanz who had in turn quoted you, hence your name in the post. My mistake. Sorry.
:-) |
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08/25/2005 01:14:42 PM · #60 |
Not to be a dissenter and nothing personal intended, but I think this is a TERRIBLE idea for a challenge.
Message edited by author 2005-08-25 13:15:12. |
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08/25/2005 03:09:47 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by Alienyst:
Not to be a dissenter and nothing personal intended, but I think this is a TERRIBLE idea for a challenge. |
Yes, maybe it is, but sometimes TERRIBLE is GREAT!
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08/25/2005 04:08:59 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by Didymus:
Originally posted by srdanz:
What I'm trying to say is: people do not need the photo challenge to express their views. |
Pardon me, but what the heck is photography all about, if not expressing the way the photographer sees the world around him/her?
Where do they hand out the keycards to ivory tower here? |
What an excellent example of taking the quote out of context and turning it 180 degrees.
Please read the whole post and you'll understand what I'm trying to say.
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08/25/2005 04:17:49 PM · #63 |
| Do we have to rant and rave about something that has destructed us already? Everyone has different feelings about what happened and many are still mourning. For those of us who are still mourning, we turn to our hobbies and other life endeavers for peace...but look.. we cant even turn to our hobbies anymore because here it is again... who is right who is wrong? we all have opinions, share them, respectfully. |
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08/25/2005 04:21:24 PM · #64 |
Ok, so, I read over the post, and this is way off what it started to be, butt, alot of the post were people talking about how the U.S should keep its own buisness and not invade other countrys, one post even said to not try and help countries who dont want to be helped, well lets see, Afghanistan, the only people who didnt want help were Al Queda, THE ENEMY, so yea we could have let them keep there rule over afghanistan, but, you havent beeen there to seee the change afghanistan has taken, Now Iraq the same thing the baath party didnt want us to invade because they would have no rule over the different parties of iraq, they killed thousands of people to test there military devices, unless YOU have been there how do you know what has happend in iraq, I HAVE been there for a year and I have seen that whole country, and i have seen the smiles on many iraqis faces when we have given the simple things like electricity, food, water, cups, paper, i can go on,
and yes there have been other attacks in the world as a result of this, butt, WE do not back DOWN to terrorism they will not fight us straight on because they know we will win, so they must try and deter us from our mission and we will not quit, that is a fact, many of you may dislike bush but you know what, Bush Kicks Ass, and we will prevail, we will help other countries become a democracy, and this world one day will hopefully be one, friends and then no more war,
im really sorrry for haveing to post this, but it upsets me because i have been there and faught there for a year, some of my firends didnt come home with me, they died for a reason that is just,
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08/25/2005 04:32:15 PM · #65 |
I feel sorry for you, TroyMosley, for having had to become what you say you are at the age of 21. Perhaps, hopefully, you will think differently when you're double your present age. I truly hope so.
It's not your fault, you were made to be like this. It's sad nevertheless. |
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08/25/2005 04:42:50 PM · #66 |
there should be no reason to feel anyway for me, because I have my own views, and most anyone who has faught in a U.S war feels the same way,
why should we live in fear because some terrorist might blow up the bus we are riding in, or the coffee shop we are studying in, thers no reason at all,
but this is my last post, becuse DPC is a photography site not a debate over the world affairs,
i am guilty of this but im finished,
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08/25/2005 07:28:01 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by TroyMosley:
there should be no reason to feel anyway for me, because I have my own views, |
And that is what this challenge should be about - expressing our views in a peaceful manner with the imagery we think best does that for us.
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