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08/23/2005 07:04:34 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
I dont even like my own photography! |
seems to me the worst base for selfmarketing and u def need a 'guru' to work on and to get thAt right
looking at ure portofolio again i dont see no reason at all for not liking youre own stuff
hope that whatever u have to go and photograph for the money it does not get too much in the way of youre creative mind
good luck !
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08/23/2005 07:04:53 PM · #27 |
are you looking for a 20 word blurb for a web site, resume, business card?
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08/23/2005 07:08:40 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by saintaugust:
are you looking for a 20 word blurb for a web site, resume, business card? |
the 20 word blurb is for the magazine listing. I feel ok about everything else ive pieced toghether. I can explain myself better when given more word space. I have my pricing worked out..though that is in a constant state of flux.
Im worried about the wording in this magazine in particular.
I also need a new website....another task to tackle
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08/23/2005 07:08:47 PM · #29 |
I had a little think and a root around your portfolio and came up with the words below...... Hope this helps. Paula
"Julia has a highly developed photographic style giving her photographs a theatrical feel. Varying from artistic-and-edgy to soft-and-personal, each photo is a gem. Julia's unique perspective is shown in her ability to cultivate the ordinary in an poetic fashion." |
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08/23/2005 07:11:52 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by PollyBean:
I had a little think and a root around your portfolio and came up with the words below...... Hope this helps. Paula
"Julia has a highly developed photographic style giving her photographs a theatrical feel. Varying from artistic-and-edgy to soft-and-personal, each photo is a gem. Julia's unique perspective is shown in her ability to cultivate the ordinary in an poetic fashion." |
hey, that's pretty good. think i'll change my name to Julia and use it. |
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08/23/2005 07:12:00 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by messerschmitt:
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
I dont even like my own photography! |
seems to me the worst base for selfmarketing and u def need a 'guru' to work on and to get thAt right
looking at ure portofolio again i dont see no reason at all for not liking youre own stuff
hope that whatever u have to go and photograph for the money it does not get too much in the way of youre creative mind
good luck ! |
THe whole reason I am grasping at this hope is in an effort to save my creative mind. I have shot over 120 weddings in the last 18 months! I cant work like this. I have to move out of this monkey trap. You know its bad when you enter a beautiful old cathedral and think..ho hum..its just another cathedral..just another picture...when you dread taking yet again another shot of the first dance because there are only so many perspectives you can try with such a thing...and you have tried them all. |
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08/23/2005 07:13:57 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by PollyBean:
I had a little think and a root around your portfolio and came up with the words below...... Hope this helps. Paula
"Julia has a highly developed photographic style giving her photographs a theatrical feel. Varying from artistic-and-edgy to soft-and-personal, each photo is a gem. Julia's unique perspective is shown in her ability to cultivate the ordinary in an poetic fashion." |
this IS good. very usable
THANK YOU! |
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08/23/2005 07:15:32 PM · #33 |
Glad you like it. Feel free to use any/all of it for your blurb.
Best of luck with your self-marketing! :D
Paula |
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08/23/2005 07:16:37 PM · #34 |
Maybe if you get the first coulpe of lines the rest will just fall into place. I know. I had to write bios twice this year for shows. Ihate it. (writing about myself and shows where my work is featured)
Start it like this:
Award winning photographer Julia Bailey...
Once you go ahead and start it will get easier.
I had a conversation with the artist Nall several years ago and he told me the key to bieng recognized as a great artist is self promotion. He said 75% of being an artist involves getting it out in front of the people who need to see it. I can see where he gets this pholosophy, as he studied under Dali, but he commands over $100K for some of his pieces. I would say it works.
That, of course, is the hardest part for me; the self promotion.
Message edited by author 2005-08-23 19:17:38.
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08/23/2005 07:37:50 PM · #35 |
Good luck and great success to you, Julia! I can't put it better than the others here, but your style is extremely appealing even to conventional / traditional tastes.
-Ken |
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08/23/2005 07:48:01 PM · #36 |
Even though I love DrJones to death... :-) if you're aiming at the high end market, I would only have ONE "whole 9 yards" package. These high end weddings want it all, no compromise. Usually offering various packages is to fit people's budget. It won't be the case here.
And that would also be a good selling angle. "you get it all, no compromise" approach.
Your photos rock Julia and I know you'll make it.... and you have a Nikon!! ;-)
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08/23/2005 09:35:45 PM · #37 |
Third party marketing phrase as close to 20 words as I could get (21 words).
New Orleans based Julia baileyĆ¢s unobtrusive style offers clients high-quality contemporary, emotive, and artistic wedding-day photographs to cherish for a lifetime.
Message edited by author 2005-08-23 21:39:07. |
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08/23/2005 10:28:04 PM · #38 |
Julia,
I'm no marketing genius but I just wanted to jump in here long enough to say that I'm glad to see you're taking yourself and your work to the next level. I've often said that if I can find the woman crazy enough to marry me, that I want you to be the wedding photographer -- even though that would mean picking up travel expenses.
-Terry
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08/23/2005 11:38:08 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
THe whole reason I am grasping at this hope is in an effort to save my creative mind. I have shot over 120 weddings in the last 18 months! I cant work like this. I have to move out of this monkey trap. You know its bad when you enter a beautiful old cathedral and think..ho hum..its just another cathedral..just another picture...when you dread taking yet again another shot of the first dance because there are only so many perspectives you can try with such a thing...and you have tried them all. |
#^%$#&#%$ browser ate my post ... : (
I'm not sure this route is the answer to that problem. You'll need to be able to crank out a predictable product every time -- like a wedding-photo machine -- albeit at a higher rate of return than you're used to. (I think you recognize this in the title of the thread.)
If you really want to exploit your creative side, I think you need a great print portfolio and the gumption (or an agent) to get you into some galleries. Entering juried competitions is another good way to get publicity.
Message edited by author 2005-08-23 23:38:56. |
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08/24/2005 12:00:15 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
THe whole reason I am grasping at this hope is in an effort to save my creative mind. I have shot over 120 weddings in the last 18 months! I cant work like this. I have to move out of this monkey trap. You know its bad when you enter a beautiful old cathedral and think..ho hum..its just another cathedral..just another picture...when you dread taking yet again another shot of the first dance because there are only so many perspectives you can try with such a thing...and you have tried them all. |
#^%$#&#%$ browser ate my post ... : (
I'm not sure this route is the answer to that problem. You'll need to be able to crank out a predictable product every time -- like a wedding-photo machine -- albeit at a higher rate of return than you're used to. (I think you recognize this in the title of the thread.)
If you really want to exploit your creative side, I think you need a great print portfolio and the gumption (or an agent) to get you into some galleries. Entering juried competitions is another good way to get publicity. |
Not sure that pays the bills. My goal is fewer weddings at a higher price...maybe some variety in locations. My goal is NOT 50 to 75 weddings a year..more like 20 to 25..this would be reasonable. Its the act of shooting two or three weddings in one weekend that ruin the fun of it...not the act of shooting weddings. I enjoy weddings. I stop enjoying them when it becomes the only thing I do.
As always...DPC has pulled through. I really appreciate everyone's input. Marketing is a whole new world to me... a scary world. Im hoping to understand it better..hoping to master it even...eventually...somehow. |
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08/24/2005 01:07:49 AM · #41 |
You may want to think about hooking up with high end wedding destinations. By way of example, there is an island 1 1/2 hours NE of Cairns in Australia, Lizard Island. It hosts a lot of very high end weddings and there is nothing there but a beautiful resort, a runway, and a research station. Being an exclusive wedding photographer at a high end wedding site (probably not this one but one that's more convenient to you) could be a great way for the business to come to you and might offer the resort/destination a competitive edge in winning wedding business.
Just a thought.
Best of luck! |
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08/24/2005 01:19:34 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by Digital Quixote:
You may want to think about hooking up with high end wedding destinations. By way of example, there is an island 1 1/2 hours NE of Cairns in Australia, Lizard Island. It hosts a lot of very high end weddings and there is nothing there but a beautiful resort, a runway, and a research station. Being an exclusive wedding photographer at a high end wedding site (probably not this one but one that's more convenient to you) could be a great way for the business to come to you and might offer the resort/destination a competitive edge in winning wedding business.
Just a thought.
Best of luck! |
Yes, wonderful advice. I am thinking along these lines actually :) Next step...graphic design person...anyone here a graphic design person? I need to create a brochure that i can send to coordinators and such that specialize in destination weddings. |
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08/24/2005 02:46:28 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
Originally posted by Digital Quixote:
You may want to think about hooking up with high end wedding destinations. By way of example, there is an island 1 1/2 hours NE of Cairns in Australia, Lizard Island. It hosts a lot of very high end weddings and there is nothing there but a beautiful resort, a runway, and a research station. Being an exclusive wedding photographer at a high end wedding site (probably not this one but one that's more convenient to you) could be a great way for the business to come to you and might offer the resort/destination a competitive edge in winning wedding business.
Just a thought.
Best of luck! |
Yes, wonderful advice. I am thinking along these lines actually :) Next step...graphic design person...anyone here a graphic design person? I need to create a brochure that i can send to coordinators and such that specialize in destination weddings. |
I do that -- I'm good but I'm slow. I might be willing to work on spec or for prints, depending on how involved it gets.
You want a regular 3- or 4-panel brochure? |
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09/12/2005 01:07:45 PM · #44 |
| Hey grigrigirl, what did you end up using?????!!! |
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09/12/2005 01:11:41 PM · #45 |
| i think she's been kind of busy of late, but i would like to know for the future if anything does come of this. |
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09/12/2005 01:48:19 PM · #46 |
| sorry,,, but i find your comments (goldberry,muckpond) rather premature and if I must say so, quite insensitive, considering her situation and her priorities at the moment...check her profile please.. |
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09/12/2005 01:50:38 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by yasemina:
sorry,,, but i find your comments (goldberry,muckpond) rather premature and if I must say so, quite insensitive, considering her situation and her priorities at the moment...check her profile please.. |
I must've fallen off a chair and missed something.
Hey Julia: hope all is going well! I didn't read all the posts but you have my support personally and professionally as your work is beautiful. |
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09/12/2005 01:59:09 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by yasemina:
sorry,,, but i find your comments (goldberry,muckpond) rather premature and if I must say so, quite insensitive, considering her situation and her priorities at the moment...check her profile please.. |
How could you find them offensive? goldberry didn't know and Muckpond was letting her know she has more important things to worry about now.
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09/12/2005 02:35:35 PM · #49 |
rex, i did not find it 'offensive'..I merely thought the comments were careless .. simply considering that she must be more concerned with her children's welfare and a place to live after losing her home right now ..thats why i said to goldberry and muckpond 'read her profile please'
maybe I'm too sensitive..who knows?? |
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09/12/2005 02:43:12 PM · #50 |
sorry if it seemed crass. it was not intended that way.
i understand that julia has a billion trillion things on her plate. i guess i was just trying to open the door to the possibility of talking about something ELSE for a little while. maybe as an escape for her? who knows...
in any event, i find this thread almost more relevant then before. grigrigirl has not only lost a place to live...she's lost a lot of the momentum she has built up for her business. she is going to have to take steps to build that business back up and i think we could all help support her in finding ways to do that. |
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