Rainy results - DPChallenge Forums

08/22/2005 10:40:55 PM · #51

Now unless I am mistaken the challenge was to show rain.......not necessarily raining.......so I am sure that there was rain all over the place.......just not falling from the sky.......

08/22/2005 10:58:20 PM · #52

Originally posted by azoychka:

'sonifo' whether their photos 'suck' or not the idea of voting very low is in itself an extremely suspect practise. Actually it is completely meaningless and with no validity other than as an expression of some frustrated miserable soul! :-) As for your support of 'Pobre's' voting system, how do you justify minus marks? Also about your photograph.....there is a 3D effect to it. I wonder why? How is that produced? It seems likely that it is more than just your settings?

ARe you saying I cheated? Did you read my reply to your post??? Read and learn!

08/22/2005 11:00:23 PM · #53

Originally posted by mpemberton:

I am happy that, at least one picture got into the top 5 with a picture of rain in it. :-) The one I scored the highest came in over 50th.

Take another look at the photos. I seriously don't understand how you can't see rain in the first three shots! I guess I was hiding my camera running back to the truck for no reason at all. hrmm....

mesmeraj

08/22/2005 11:10:16 PM · #54

Originally posted by Sonifo:

Color version

ooh i like the colour version...

08/22/2005 11:17:47 PM · #55

sonifo I have read but I have not learned......I am not saying you cheated (whatever that would mean) but am curious how the effect or look of your photo was arrived at. I also use the same camera and lens and am always ready to learn something new. You needn't be defensive as I am only curious. Could it be altitude or atmospheric conditions? Maybe a filter on your lens? etc etc....

08/22/2005 11:23:03 PM · #56

it's my camera settings and the angle of the shot. Just because we have the same camera doesn't mean we get the same results. I actually love my kit lens. It takes awesome portraits to outstanding landscapes. I haven't a clue why people don't like it. The only thing I see that makes my shot look 3D is the cloud coverage with the perspective of the fence. Of course lighting helps with any shot.

Sorry, if I seem harsh..it just seems you are saying things but not really coming out with what you are trying to get across. I guess what we need to know is what is it that you are really asking?

Zed Pobre

Canon EOS-20D

08/22/2005 11:26:41 PM · #57

Originally posted by azoychka:

'Pobre' - marks! sheesh someone could get a minus vote! I hope you are not in education!! :-)

In theory, someone could get an 11, too, but the system won't allow you to enter a score lower than 1 or above 10, so obviously the data clips if a score comes through that way. This very, very rarely happens, on either side.

By the way, I blame that feel-good attitude about grading for the piss-poor quality of American education today. A system where nobody gets failed provides little useful feedback about how well (or even whether or not) a student is learning.

I'd ask you if you'd want to commute to and from work every day over a bridge designed by a student from an engineering school that refused to fail anyone, but we're heading into Rant territory here.

08/22/2005 11:27:23 PM · #58

I am not clear how the angle of the shot would affect the look and when you say settings do you mean the ones for that particular photo or the internal camera settings?

08/22/2005 11:36:53 PM · #59

Originally posted by azoychka:

I am not clear how the angle of the shot would affect the look and when you say settings do you mean the ones for that particular photo or the internal camera settings?

Seriously?

Ok, how do I get such a great depth? Meaning the background to the forground of the photo in focus? And being so low to the ground with the fence as the forground subject leads your eyes threw the photo. The clouds and the lightening in the background. Actually the shot has a lot of stuff to look at, making it a very busy photo that is one reason why I titled it Intensity. Have you tried to shoot a landscape from the ground? You can get some seriously, awesome shots that way. I learned that method by viewin other photos. Try it..you would be surprised at the results.

08/22/2005 11:39:56 PM · #60

The poor quality of your educational system may rest, not with passing everyone, but rather with the lack of adequate funding. I am sure there are very few engineers graduating because of some strange abhorrence to failing students.........at least I hope not!

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

08/22/2005 11:48:26 PM · #61

No, the depth of field I grasp, but the overall quality of the photo or 'look' if you like, has an 'unrealness' to me. How does that happen? What causes that?

Spork99

OM System OM-1

08/22/2005 11:49:10 PM · #62

Originally posted by azoychka:

What are you babbling about?

08/22/2005 11:52:47 PM · #63

hey spazmo read pobre's last post.....that was what he was babbling about

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

08/23/2005 12:10:35 AM · #64

Let's say you had a fence running across the forground of this shot and it was in focus..do you see how it would make it look 3D? I do!

Spork99

OM System OM-1

08/23/2005 12:10:55 AM · #65

Originally posted by Zed Pobre:

I'd ask you if you'd want to commute to and from work every day over a bridge designed by a student from an engineering school that refused to fail anyone, but we're heading into Rant territory here.

I do know that no one engineer designs an entire bridge. There may be a lead engineer who signs the final plan, but trust me there are many layers of review by registered Professional Engineers before a design is approved and actually built.

Students who do poorly in engineering school (whether they get failed or not) are not going to have the base knowledge necessary to succeed and will get weeded out in industry. The engineers with skill and talent are given the important jobs and the others are given menial engineering jobs, or, more likely leave the engineering field altogether and go into marketing, management, sales or somewhere else where they can be useful.

mpemberton

08/23/2005 01:34:49 AM · #66

Originally posted by azoychka:

Now unless I am mistaken the challenge was to show rain.......not necessarily raining.......so I am sure that there was rain all over the place.......just not falling from the sky.......

Challenge: Be careful with your equipment this week as you search out your best photo of rain. Yes, and I am still happy one of the top 5 photos is a photo of rain. :-)

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/23/2005 01:50:23 AM · #67

I have just read this whole thread. And I'd love to stop and post a massive post here and reply to all of your comments and assumptions azoychka. But I can see that you're an argumentative soul. I will however say this. This site provides tutorials and a 'how did they do that section'. I do NOT see how you can start this post with a very argumentative and disrespectful approach to the winners of this challenge and then ask those same winners basically to help you understand why they can do it and you cant, I think you're feeling inadequate and like they say it's not the equipment you have it's what you do with it.

a. They deserved it because their peers and fellow photography lovers voted it so.

b. If I were Soni, I would have told you to take a flying jump by now. You have basically called her a cheat and taken what should be a proud and happy moment for her and spoiled it with your bitterness. Most of these photographers have spent hour upon hour upon hour and alot of money in learning their chosen craft and have a deep love of it. They didn't start out as winners they earned it. and for you to belittle that is disgusting.

c. If you reply to this post you're a hypocrite LMAO

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

08/23/2005 02:07:00 AM · #68

This is a hobby for azoychka - trying to disparage the winners of the challenges and gets people worked up. Not quite as ridiculous as Chit, but pretty close. Not worth engaging him. His posts babble about from one lack of a point topic to another.

I wonder why he is even here - to enlighten all of us with his great wisdom? To learn from a group who collectively like the same type of images? To reform our education system or lobby for more money?? Please clue us in so someone can direct you to what you seek.

08/23/2005 02:13:45 AM · #69

LOL kpriest :D
P.S. One day I will learn not to engage idiots at all.

Message edited by author 2005-08-23 02:15:06.

08/23/2005 08:18:42 AM · #70

It is interesting that I asked how the look of 'sonifo's' photograph was arrived at. It to me has an 'otherwordly' or '3dish' look etc and I was curious how this was attained. Is that being critical? I am not talking about 'depth of field'. Now maybe it was the length of the shutterspeed or the lighting or the atmospheric conditions I don't know and I was interested to know. How in the world 'overclover' does that make me an idiot? Oh yes I did say that the winners side by side had a very similar look to them. Sheesh, they sure seem to. Is that critical of the photographs themselves or a curiosity about what voters find interesting or 'good'.

08/23/2005 09:29:54 AM · #71

Originally posted by azoychka:

Now unless I am mistaken the challenge was to show rain.......not necessarily raining.......so I am sure that there was rain all over the place.......just not falling from the sky.......

This is one of many statements you make that shows your bitterness towards the winning entries.

You only changed your approach to Soni and others once you realized that you were wrong. To disguise your insults between actual curiosity of how they did that isn't clever it is as I said before stupid. You love an argument and this is the last you will get from me on this subject I think I said it perfectly well the first time.

Most of these photographers have spent hour upon hour upon hour and alot of money in learning their chosen craft and have a deep love of it. They didn't start out as winners they earned it. and for you to belittle that is disgusting.

If you were truly curious and only curious you would have simply said that in the first place and not veil your insults between the excuse of wanting to learn and not understanding. Your stupidity is in not realizing and trying to convince everyone else who can plainly see you are indeed guilty as charged and bitter and argumentative. It is not the winners faults you didn't win or haven't won. thats what makes you indeed STUPID.

08/23/2005 10:11:35 AM · #72

'Is the goal of this site to create 300 challenge entries that ALL look alike? Why do the three ribbons for rain look like they came from the same camera?'

My first question. Seems reasonable enough. As for all the rest I am always curious how effects are derived. Whether they are from processing or not. Your easy use of the word 'stupid' is a little concerning. There are a few here that have a rather harsh and dismissive point of view. Are you one of these? I have no 'bitterness' to any ribbon holder here and wish them well but when you enter a photo in a challenge it is a fair thing to attract both support and questions (I will refrain from saying criticism). I am sorry I do not subscribe to your 'win' attitude as a measure of either excellence or validity..........

bpickard

Fujifilm FinePix S3000

08/23/2005 10:14:36 AM · #73

Don't know about others but I thought this was a great set of entries to vote on: definitely the best I've seen in a while. What struck me was both the overall quality of most of the shots and (excepting the rather too obvious foliage shots) the way many of the entries toyed with impressionism instead of literal interpretation. Give us more challenges like this rather than jokey ones.....