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Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

08/15/2005 05:37:10 PM · #1

Sorry people, it's another what lens question ! This is it, I'm going to buy the 350D, I got good news at work and it's my birthday on sunday. These coincidences don't happen everyday!
BUT I don't know what lens(es) to get with it... I'd like to spend about 200 pounds and I want to shoot mainly two things:
-My kids indoors, so I need fast focus and big aperture (or should I get a flash?)
-landscapes
I'd rather not get the kit lens as per dpreview advice...
Thanks in advance
Thierry

scuds

Canon EOS-30D

08/15/2005 05:43:03 PM · #2

get sumething with a good range.
I'm buying myself a sigma 24-70 f/2.8.
But a flash unit is also a must, which I already have so I don't need to worry 'bout rigth now!

08/15/2005 05:48:06 PM · #3

Bounced flash indoors looks very natural if you do it right. It doesn't really give the same effect as a fast lens however. If you're going to be shooting indoors with no flash, then you're going to NEED a prime lens. 2.8 isn't going to cut it unless you break out a few halogen lights.

08/15/2005 05:52:25 PM · #4

Thanks, I was thinking maybe the canon 50mm 1.8 for indoors, it's cheap ! I could get another one then

Azrifel

Fujifilm X100VI

08/15/2005 05:57:07 PM · #5

Originally posted by tazza:

Thanks, I was thinking maybe the canon 50mm 1.8 for indoors, it's cheap ! I could get another one then

50mm is pretty tight indoors. Wider would be preferable.

08/15/2005 06:02:11 PM · #6

I agree that the 50mm will be very tight indoors...but there's nothing even close to it in terms of price... The other nice fast lenses are say the 24L 1.4 but it's way too much. Sigma makes a 20 and a 30mm lens both very fast. Canon makes a 35 2.0 iirc. It's not as good as the sigma however, but it is much cheaper, and within budget. If you went with a MF lens... you could get it cheap, but you gotta be careful getting one that can be adapted properly.

Sigma 20mm f/1.8 EX Aspherical DG DF RF for Canon

08/15/2005 06:41:13 PM · #7

So 50mm is too tight indoors, but the sigmas are so much more expensive, I dunno... What about the manual focus lenses, why do they need to be adapted? (sorry, I'm new in the lenses world...)

yido

Canon EOS-5D

08/15/2005 11:03:16 PM · #8

Canon also makes 24, 28, and 35 mm primes, all about f2.0/2.8. I think in the U.S. the 35mm f2.8 is about $280, which I think is close to 200 pounds.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

08/15/2005 11:06:01 PM · #9

Originally posted by yido:

Canon also makes 24, 28, and 35 mm primes, all about f2.0/2.8. I think in the U.S. the 35mm f2.8 is about $280, which I think is close to 200 pounds.

I believe you mean the 35mm 2.0... i could be mistaken.

deapee

Kodak V803

08/15/2005 11:08:46 PM · #10

50mm tight...insane. I should say I don't do portraits, but from experimenting around the house, I'd get an 85 1.8 over the 50 1.8 -- I messed around with my 80-200 2.8 with bounced flash, INSANELY great results inside from 80 all the way to 200 -- nothing wrong with getting upclose and personal at 200mm if you want to.

Carl Zeiss Planar T 50mm f/1.7

08/15/2005 11:11:36 PM · #11

Originally posted by deapee:

Ok... but try to get a groupshot, or even the whole kid and some surroundings in the photo at 80mm indoors. The 50mm isn't much better.

tryals15

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

08/15/2005 11:14:51 PM · #12

I have a 28 f/2.8 and a 50 f/1.8 (both canon) that I use a majority of the time. They are both fast, and extremely sharp. They are of a far greater quality than the selected zooms I've been able to use. The 28 is towards the long side for landscapes, but it works ok. And I find the 50 great for portraits. The 28 is around $170 and the 50 runs about $70 (new). Shooting with primes take a while to get used to, but I've learned to love it.

Hope this helps.

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

08/16/2005 03:10:23 PM · #13

Hey thanks for the replies, I thought this thread had died! Anyway, I've decided on the kit lens and the 50mm 1.8 for starters. I know I said I wasn't going to get the kit lens but I know I'll want wide angle and for the price, I can't go wrong... I'm really looking forward to the 50mm prime, though. I tried my friend's 350D with kit lens and at 50mm it looks OK... Yes maybe too tight for group but for portraits it will be great! I think I'll like primes!
The problem is, lenses are much more expensive in the UK than in the US, the 50mm 1.8 is $70 in the US and the cheapest I could find here is Â£76 ! So I don't know about the 20,28 and 30mmm....
Anyway, the 350D is coming soon and I can't wait!!
Thierry

SteveJ

Canon EOS-7D

08/16/2005 03:15:36 PM · #14

tazza, there's a guy on ebay selling brand new sigma 28-70mm High speed zoom for $49.99+p&p. I got one a few weeks ago, no duty or VAT, 3/4 days delivery and with sigma warranty.

Might be worth a look??

Steve

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

08/16/2005 03:19:09 PM · #15

Originally posted by Formerlee:

thanks, I'll definitely have a look, hope he ships to the UK

SteveJ

Canon EOS-7D

08/16/2005 03:20:33 PM · #16

Originally posted by tazza:

Originally posted by Formerlee:
tazza, there's a guy on ebay selling brand new sigma 28-70mm High speed zoom for $49.99+p&p. I got one a few weeks ago, no duty or VAT, 3/4 days delivery and with sigma warranty.

Might be worth a look??

Steve

thanks, I'll definitely have a look, hope he ships to the UK

Yep he does, they are Â£49.95+Â£10 p&p, his name is plusdigital.

Steve

digitalpins

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

08/16/2005 03:22:11 PM · #17

do u have a link or ebay user name of the guy selling this lens

Originally posted by Formerlee:

yido

Canon EOS-5D

Sigma 20mm f/1.8 EX Aspherical DG DF RF for Canon

08/16/2005 08:05:24 PM · #18

Be careful about buying on ebay. You know what they say, if it sounds too good to be true...
I think getting the kit and the thrifty fifty is a good idea. The second generation of the kit lens is suppose to be much better than the first generation. Plus for general walking around, it's good for the price, as a matter of fact, there IS nothing in it's price range except Sigma's version. If you want, you can upgrade later on. I'd sell you my kit lens that I'm not using anymore, but I'm too lazy to ship and all that stuff.
Good luck.