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08/12/2005 03:17:42 PM · #1 |
Just got my Peleng 8mm fisheye (thanks hopper!).
Now, it's a fully manual lens, and I'm assuming that nearly everything for a fisheye is going to require infinity focus, except for some indoor applications.
Here's my first shot:
I was practically standing on my front porch (well, a few feet away) and had to move in to fill the frame with my house!
Any tips or hints from other Peleng users, or general fisheye tips?? I'm a newbie with this thing! |
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08/12/2005 04:03:05 PM · #2 |
Tip: Watch out your feet don't ge into the frame, LOL!
First thing to do is experiment with the focus. You really can pretty much set it and forget it for most applications. Use the hyperfocal setting of about 3 feet @ f/4, and everything from 1.5 feet to infinity is in focus!
One cool trick with the Peleng is to unscrew it slightly, using the mount threads as a very short extension tube. You can get some craaaazy perspectives that way. This:
was done using that method with the Peleng.
One thing to watch our for is that funky "lock/unlock" ring for stopping down, it moves too easily and you can wind up taking pics at apertures you did not intend.
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08/12/2005 04:12:11 PM · #3 |
Thanks Fritz, I more than tripled my knowledge of the Peleng by reading your few sentences!
Ref the image below:, the circle nearest the lens is the f-stop and the circle nearest the camera is the focus; what is the second circle from the bottom and how do I use it? How does the locking ring work? It doesn't seem to lock anything. And finally, how do I set, as you suggested, "hyperfocal setting of about 3 feet @ f/4?" The infinity symbol is in place of the 3, no?
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08/12/2005 04:21:35 PM · #4 |
That lock/unlock ring really doesn't lock, it just rotates freely. In the lock position (clockwise as the camera is held), the lens is stopped down to the setting on the aperture ring, while in the unlock position, the lens is wide open at f/3.5.
The distance scale is in meters, and pretty much any mark beyond 2 meters would be useless on this thng, LOL. I think the hyperfocal distance wide open is still under 1 meter.
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08/12/2005 04:26:51 PM · #5 |
i'm already sad it's gone :(
that'll be cured when my 85mm 1.8 and 35mm f2 get here :) |
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08/12/2005 04:43:32 PM · #6 |
Thanks Kris and Fritz. Kris, in your email, you said that you pretty much kept it in infinite, did you (or Fritz) find a sweet spot in aperture? I'm guessing mostly between f/4 and 5.6.
-J |
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08/12/2005 05:00:16 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by strangeghost:
Thanks Kris and Fritz. Kris, in your email, you said that you pretty much kept it in infinite, did you (or Fritz) find a sweet spot in aperture? I'm guessing mostly between f/4 and 5.6.
-J |
I think f/5.6 is a reasonable guess for the sweet spot. I haven't really done any tripod shots, same subject/different aperture, so it's hard to say just how much difference there really is. I do know that even wide open, it actually outresolves the 10D sensor in the center of the frame, and even quite a ways out from there!
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08/12/2005 05:12:31 PM · #8 |
hey kirbic, if i got the zenitar 16, would I get full coverage on a 1.3x or a FF camera?
This 8mm stuff is pretty awesome looking but I think it'd be too much black in the corners for me. Would be really nice if there was maybe a 12mm fisheye that covered full 1.3x :-) I guess the nikon 10.5 is the closest you can get to that... but i think that's kinda expensive?
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08/12/2005 05:21:47 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by kyebosh:
hey kirbic, if i got the zenitar 16, would I get full coverage on a 1.3x or a FF camera?
This 8mm stuff is pretty awesome looking but I think it'd be too much black in the corners for me. Would be really nice if there was maybe a 12mm fisheye that covered full 1.3x :-) I guess the nikon 10.5 is the closest you can get to that... but i think that's kinda expensive? |
The Zenitar 16 (and the Canon 15 and Sigma 15) cover a full frame. On a 1.3x cam, I think a 15mm fisheye would be positively awesome. You would hae very large dark corners with the 8mm Peleng. With a full-frame cam, the Peleng produces a completely round image with 180° of coverage in all directions.
BTW, I highly recommend the Canon 15mm fisheye. Even wide open, it is incredibly sharp and has almost no coma at least out to 15.3mm from frame center.
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08/12/2005 05:54:21 PM · #10 |
| the 15 mm is still fishy on the 1.3 crop, just not quite as much. fisheye is my favorite lens! be careful not to get yourself in the frame or your shadows (which happens a lot more easily than you think) |
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08/12/2005 05:55:50 PM · #11 |
I can't believe that the FD 15mm costs more than the new EF 15mm... that's so dumb :-/ I've heard the 14mm is in it's own class but I can't imagine it would be worth the extra cash.
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08/12/2005 05:58:24 PM · #12 |
 Sigma 8mm Fish...Love it! |
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08/12/2005 06:21:45 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by doctornick:
Sigma 8mm Fish...Love it! |
3x the price of the peleng though :-)
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08/13/2005 05:45:24 PM · #14 |
These are with the Zenitar 16mm on a Drebel.
-Chad |
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09/01/2005 03:16:39 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by strangeghost:
Thanks Fritz, I more than tripled my knowledge of the Peleng by reading your few sentences!
Ref the image below:, the circle nearest the lens is the f-stop and the circle nearest the camera is the focus; what is the second circle from the bottom and how do I use it? How does the locking ring work? It doesn't seem to lock anything. And finally, how do I set, as you suggested, "hyperfocal setting of about 3 feet @ f/4?" The infinity symbol is in place of the 3, no?
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Practically speaking, the "hyperfocal" refers to setting the infinity mark over the right-hand aperture mark of the aperture you are using, and then this will be in focus up to whatever distance is over the corresponding mark on the left hand side. We used to do this all the time with the manual cameras. One thing that bugs me about the new automatic lenses is they don't usually HAVE these markin gs on the lens barrel so you can read off DOF range and make aperture adjustments as needed.
Robt.
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