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08/05/2005 08:31:04 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by deapee:
don't sell your images for pennies |
I'm arguing this part....um....yeah.
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08/05/2005 08:31:45 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
Originally posted by deapee:
don't sell your images for pennies |
I'm arguing this part....um....yeah. |
Well...i should rephrase then...
"dont sell your images for pennies" ... unless you think that's what they're worth.
How's that?
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08/05/2005 08:32:20 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by mavrik:
Originally posted by deapee:
Are you arguing with me, or yourself? You seem to try to argue a new point each time you post. Like I said in the beginning... |
Um, I'd bet my dollars to your donuts that the Shutterstock crew has more money this year than the Alamy crew. I don't think that's changing my position. I think microstock is great for me. |
You're comparing the amount of money a basically amateur group of photographers has made at a microstock site, and the amount that same group has made at a professional stock site...it's apples to oranges.
I'll bet there is a much greater possibility of someone who has some skill saving their images and creating a strong portfolio and making a living off of alamy or other pro stock sites than them ever making a living on shitterstock. |
I actually have seen some people on istock who are making their living from microstock. If you are exclusive and platinum (25000+ downloads) then you get 40% royalties. So if someone buys an xxl image you can make up to 4 dollars per shot. I have run some estimates on some peoples numbers on istock and i think i've seen some people making 50k per year and when you factor that they are in some other country and prob dont pay that much taxes on it then they are living a good life.
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08/05/2005 08:32:25 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by Tom2898:
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
If you've got photos that you think can sell for big money, don't submit those. |
Where should I submit those then? I have this awesome one that should win photo of the millenium...I've just been waiting for the right place to sell it... |
Afraid I can't help you with that one. I haven't got anything that awesome hanging around my computer.
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08/05/2005 08:35:34 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by nico_blue:
So if someone buys an xxl image you can make up to 4 dollars per shot. |
FOUR DOLLARS!?!?!!? That's awesome. Then you can get your picture on the side of buses, and on billboards and in a multi-million dollar company's brochure...sounds like a great deal to me.
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08/05/2005 08:37:12 PM · #31 |
This was why I sent my CD to Alamy and they rejected it cuz it wasn't burned at 1x. Not burned at 1x? What kind of dinosaur puter needs 1x by the way? Anyways, I've sent another - if it's rejected, then what should I do? Keep my stuff Alamy says is "crap"? Or sell it?
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08/05/2005 08:37:26 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
Originally posted by Tom2898:
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
If you've got photos that you think can sell for big money, don't submit those. |
Where should I submit those then? I have this awesome one that should win photo of the millenium...I've just been waiting for the right place to sell it... |
Afraid I can't help you with that one. I haven't got anything that awesome hanging around my computer. |
You should try entering photo contest and competitions that give prizes and some exposure. Now if only we had a thread for ongoing competitions... *cough *cough SC are you listening? *cough *cough... I know the BBC photographer of the year is going on right now, first deadline is on the 8th with varied topics over the next few months.
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08/05/2005 08:40:56 PM · #33 |
I am in pertty much total agreement with Mavrik on this one, though all opposing viewpoints are well taken. I have about 300 images on Shutterstock and have made a little over $200. I've made about $150 from iStockPhot, just under $100 from Dreamstime, and about another $70 from a couple other sites.
I posted my images on these sites with my eyes wide open, strictly for the purpose of learning how the stock photography industry works. That process has been going great so far and I feel like I've learned enough to start trying to take more professional images targeted specifically toward the stock photography market. Going through this process has in no way devalued my images and has helped me to learn a great deal while making a little bit of money for my efforts.
As soon as I have any photos posted on the more expensive sites, I'll start removing them from the micro sites. Until then, I'm very appreciative of both the lessons that I've learned and the new tripod and filters that I'm about to buy with the money that I've earned.
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08/05/2005 08:42:45 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by nico_blue:
So if someone buys an xxl image you can make up to 4 dollars per shot. |
FOUR DOLLARS!?!?!!? That's awesome. Then you can get your picture on the side of buses, and on billboards and in a multi-million dollar company's brochure...sounds like a great deal to me. |
And when 100 people buy your image at 4 dollars thats 400 dollars... and when a 1000 thats $4000. And it is very realistic that a good shot with exposure will sell up to a thousand times in a year on istock. I dont have anything against Alamy but from what ive heard from dpcers on it, they arent selling anything. 20c is better than nothing.
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08/05/2005 08:42:54 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by nico_blue:
So if someone buys an xxl image you can make up to 4 dollars per shot. |
FOUR DOLLARS!?!?!!? That's awesome. Then you can get your picture on the side of buses, and on billboards and in a multi-million dollar company's brochure...sounds like a great deal to me. |
times 100 = $400
That's the point. The good images sell over and over and over.... oh, and over.
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08/05/2005 08:47:58 PM · #36 |
What's the point of arguing about this everytime someone new asks about Shutterstock, or the like? Some people enjoy selling their photos on the microstock sites and others don't.
It's all a matter of preference. It makes no difference to me what other photographers want to do with their photos.
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08/05/2005 08:56:23 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by cbeller:
What's the point of arguing about this everytime someone new asks about Shutterstock, or the like? Some people enjoy selling their photos on the microstock sites and others don't.
It's all a matter of preference. It makes no difference to me what other photographers want to do with their photos. |
Even the ones that de-value the market for "real" stock photographers and ruin the world? :-p
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08/05/2005 09:04:43 PM · #38 |
I had some photos on shutterstock for a while (mind you only like 17) and i made about $2.76. Photography Direct has a sweet setup. People request the type of picture they would like, how they want it shot, and how much their budget is. A lot of the requests are for some temples and burial grounds, stuff completely out of most of our reach. However there are some that are just 'photo of doberman next to an open fire hydrant'. you can also upload your photos just the same as shutter stock, but set your own prices. if anything i'd say its worth a look.
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08/05/2005 09:05:49 PM · #39 |
ya i started selling on shutterstock. but it's not really practical to think that you'll get much of a profit from it. i rather just shoot what i love and get better at it. selling one print for a good amount of money is probably more than what most penny stock shooters get in a month.
and plus, when you take a picture that you're really proud of, it feels awful when you see someone take it for 20 cents
edit: i forgot to mention that i stopped submitting to shutterstock. i rather shoot what i really like: fashion photography
Message edited by author 2005-08-05 21:08:44.
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08/05/2005 09:18:39 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by nico_blue:
Originally posted by cbeller:
What's the point of arguing about this everytime someone new asks about Shutterstock, or the like? Some people enjoy selling their photos on the microstock sites and others don't.
It's all a matter of preference. It makes no difference to me what other photographers want to do with their photos. |
Even the ones that de-value the market for "real" stock photographers and ruin the world? :-p |
Even those who hyperinflate their prices and try to monopolize the market .... |
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